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Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg244897#msg244897
« on: January 11, 2011, 03:49:21 am »
NAME:
Cherub
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2|∞
TEXT:
Targeting Cherub with anything grants Cherub +3/+1 and removes infinity health.  Other effects negated.
NAME:
Cherub
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
3 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3|∞
TEXT:
Targeting Cherub with anything grants Cherub +3/+2 and removes infinity health.  Other effects negated.
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NOTES:
As of right now, no spell or ability affects Cherub (other than the stat changes indicated on the card) as long as it has ∞ health.
Examples;
Target Cherub with Reverse Time, Cherub gains +3/+1 and is not sent to the deck.
Target Cherub with Fractal, Cherub gains +3/+1 and is not fractalled.
Target Cherub with Antimatter, Cherub gains +3/+1 and does not have negative attack.
Target Cherub with Devour, Cherub gains +3/+1 and does not get eaten!

Cherub must be targeted for its stats to be effected or to lose infinite health.
Examples;
Thunderstorm does not hurt Cherub as long as it still has infinite health.
Fire Shield does not  hurt Cherub as long as it still has infinite health.
Pandemonium does not affect Cherubs stats, but it can be given a status (frozen, etc.)

Effects that happen "automatically" will effect Cherub even if it has infinite health;
Cherub can get poisoned by Thorn Carapace.  Although, as long as it still possesses infinite health, it isn't hurt.  As soon as it loses infinite health, the counters remain on Cherub and it will begin to take damage.
Cherub can be delayed by Turtle Shield.
Cherub

Playing a Chimera treats infinite health as 0hp,  but it will receive the Attack from Cherub.

Flooding will kill Cherub.

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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg244912#msg244912
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2011, 04:18:07 am »
So is this card immune to Fire Shield and Thorn Carapace or do those activate the ability?
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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg244913#msg244913
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2011, 04:19:21 am »
Does not affect Cherub as long as it has ∞ health.

As soon as it loses ∞ health though, it can be affected.

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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg244914#msg244914
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2011, 04:25:32 am »
Is being immune to Fire Shield and Thorn Carapace while it has ∞ hp important to the card concept? If so why?
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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg244919#msg244919
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2011, 04:32:38 am »
Well technically it isn't immune to fire shield nor thorn carapace but with ∞ health it doesn't matter how much damage or poison counters is on it.

The main principle is once Cherub has been targeted then it can be hurt.

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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg244921#msg244921
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2011, 04:34:52 am »
I was wondering if being affected(including the first attack vs the CC shields) would be easier to code/understand and end up being simpler.
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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg244939#msg244939
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2011, 04:59:22 am »
nice is like an inverse quint. also I like the concept of the angel.
altrough you could increase the cost and non-infinite HP of the upped, so
you could use the "modern art" depicion of cherub aka. the winged silly baby and on the upped you use art depictin a real cherub an high hierachy angel, lol.

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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg245075#msg245075
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2011, 01:08:56 pm »
@OT I see what you are saying, I'd say I have no idea :P

@az4rel thanks for the suggestion haha

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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg245134#msg245134
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2011, 03:07:55 pm »
This reminds me of Anachron Ninja in the Archive : it can't take damage, but dies when targeted by a spell.  I'm not exactly sure how infinity health would be coded, but if it can't, you might want to change the effect to can't take damage(like a passive ability), and make it lose this ability when targeted by a spell.

Thematically it fits.  You could possibly say the Cherub represents a child, "grew up" after he was targeted from a spell, before that he was innocently shielded from the cruetly of the world.


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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg245183#msg245183
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2011, 04:28:57 pm »
you might want to change the effect to can't take damage(like a passive ability), and make it lose this ability when targeted.
ZBlader has the right idea. Have it be 2|1 that is immune to damage until targeted, once targeted negate that first effect and gain +3|+0
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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg245214#msg245214
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2011, 05:22:04 pm »
he gain what spell/ability make before or after grant 3/1?

i'm mean, if you cast blessing it will have 8/4  right?

but what if rage?  2/∞ then 7/∞-5 (still be ∞?) then 10/1   or 2/∞ then 5/1 then die?

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Re: Cherub | Cherub https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=19275.msg245218#msg245218
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2011, 05:26:52 pm »
he gain what spell/ability make before or after grant 3/1?

i'm mean, if you cast blessing it will have 8/4  right?

but what if rage?  2/∞ then 7/∞-5 (still be ∞?) then 10/1   or 2/∞ then 5/1 then die?
It says in the notes that the effect is negated and Cherub changes to 5|1.
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