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Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439460#msg439460
« on: December 17, 2011, 02:59:01 am »
NAME:
Catfish
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
1 | 3
TEXT:
When catfish is played, gain :earth :earth :earth .
:earth :earth : Bury:  Permanently burrow target creature.
NAME:
Namazu
ELEMENT:
Water
COST:
3 :water
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 3
TEXT:
When Namazu is played, gain :earth :earth :earth .
:earth :earth : Bury:  Permanently burrow target creature.
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NOTES:
From Wikipedia "In Japanese mythology, the Namazu (鯰) or Ōnamazu (大鯰) is a giant catfish who causes earthquakes. He lives in the mud beneath the earth, and is guarded by the god Kashima who restrains the catfish with a stone. When Kashima lets his guard fall, Namazu thrashes about, causing violent earthquakes."

People have noticed catfish acting strangely before earthquakes. It is thought that they can somehow sense when an earthquake is about to occur. This may be what inspired the Japanese legend.

I think this card sums up that synergy quite nicely. the appearance of catfish indicates that an earthquake might soon occur.

To add some spice to the equation it has been given the skill "bury". It can burrow the target creature permanently. This would work well as CC against high attack creatures and buff dependent creatures because it would cut their attack in half and prevent them from being targeted with buff spells. This combos great with Titanium shield because by burrowing an enemy you can effectively block creatures with up to 6 attack completely. and do better against high attack creatures like dragons.

it can also be used as an alternate quint. borrowing your creatures so they cant be targeted by skills.
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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439476#msg439476
« Reply #1 on: December 17, 2011, 05:17:08 am »
I like it. It might give trident some more use. It seems a bit useless after it's on the field though...how about at least make it a half-decent attacker, by making it 2|2 or 3|1?

Or maybe even upping the cost and increasing its stats.

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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439482#msg439482
« Reply #2 on: December 17, 2011, 05:36:33 am »
Yah, I wasnt sure. It could focus on the fast use of earthquake, or give it some teeth but delay the play.

I might want to split it and make one expensive but hard hitting and the other cheap but fast playable.

Edit: idea, Catfish are know for being able to grow to tremendous size. I could have it double in stats every turn it is underwater. or some other buff from flooding.

Edit 2: nother idea: give it ability ->  :earth: Growth. gain +2|+2 so you can use up your unused earth quanta.

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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439487#msg439487
« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2011, 06:14:44 am »
I like the "growth" idea the best, although using dirt to make a fish grow seems kinda...
Can you drop the unupgraded cost to 2 quanta?

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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439627#msg439627
« Reply #4 on: December 17, 2011, 03:48:25 pm »
hmmmm. I dont think it would be particularly unthematic considering that many catfish are bottom-feeders, and they sift through the mud at the bottom of rivers to find food. mud = :earth

I think I will drop the price. I made it so expensive because of the quanta gain. but its a one time gain.

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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439637#msg439637
« Reply #5 on: December 17, 2011, 03:59:25 pm »
Nice idea, but with this stats it become useless often. I suggest to you to increase stats :)

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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439643#msg439643
« Reply #6 on: December 17, 2011, 04:06:49 pm »
now?

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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439664#msg439664
« Reply #7 on: December 17, 2011, 05:01:51 pm »
I like it, it does seem weird to me that there's forest spirit and fire spirit and then nothing in water or earth(the other two in that quartet) and I think this fills the gap nicely.
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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439733#msg439733
« Reply #8 on: December 17, 2011, 07:54:54 pm »
Interesting but it would be better with a different  :earth activated skill. Perhaps an original one?
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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439735#msg439735
« Reply #9 on: December 17, 2011, 07:58:46 pm »
maybe toy could give it guard? that's a cool skill
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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439755#msg439755
« Reply #10 on: December 17, 2011, 08:35:42 pm »
what about:

 :earth: Subsidence
Permanently bury target creature

edit: be a different means of CC, and control against buff reliant creatures. work well with a shield like titanium shield. could completely block creatures with 6 attack, by burying them. Because burrowed creatures have 50% attack.



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Re: Catfish | Namazu https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=34863.msg439760#msg439760
« Reply #11 on: December 17, 2011, 08:40:54 pm »
what about:

 :earth: Subsidence
Permanently bury target creature

edit: be a different means of CC, and control against buff reliant creatures. work well with a shield like titanium shield. could completely block creatures with 6 attack, by burying them. Because burrowed creatures have 50% attack.
this is AWESOME. I realy like it A LOT.
But giving the creature this skill should be paired with a raise in the cost.
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