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Re: Glass Shard | Glass Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg447608#msg447608
« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2012, 02:59:14 pm »
My thread hasn't fallen behind, zanzarino is only putting the Shards out at a pace of 1 every six months right now, and it's hard to balance a card when there are some aspects still unseen.

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Re: Glass Shard | Glass Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg447866#msg447866
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2012, 04:48:32 am »
My thread hasn't fallen behind, zanzarino is only putting the Shards out at a pace of 1 every six months right now, and it's hard to balance a card when there are some aspects still unseen.
^-^ My bad. I still wanted to post my version anyway because I liked the theme I made around it.

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Re: Glass Shard | Glass Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg447884#msg447884
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2012, 07:43:12 am »
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  • In order for this card, which is a remake of majofa's idea, to be submitted, you must obtain his permission first. Since majofa seems to intend to submit his version, I doubt you'll get that permission. Sorry about that.
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Re: Glass Shard | Glass Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg470976#msg470976
« Reply #15 on: March 15, 2012, 03:19:22 am »
Card Updated:
- Glass Shard has now been changed and is intended to be different from majofa and moomoose's versions of the card. (Does not interact with pillars and this card now involves the concept of changing your mark to favor the shard given. It is different from a carbon copy of Nymph's Tears for marks and is not limited to the player's mark either.) Also obtained permission from majofa to submit idea to polls.
- Cost raised to 8 | 6.
Cost -
You are targeting a card to create a useful creature/permanent/spell in your hand.  Bears similarities to PU but does not go straight to field.

The average shard costs 5 | 3 Other , which using 1.5[X] - 1.5 = Elemental value is 2 | 1 :underworld .
Nymph's Tears costs 2 Cards + 6 :water | 7-8 :water to play a Nymph.
PU costs 1 card + 7 | 6 :aether to play a duplicate.
Glass Shard costs 1 Card + X+2 | X+1 :underworld to play a Shard.

Nymphs cost 8-9 :underworld vs Nymph's Tears which is 6 | 7-8 , so there is a 2-1 quantum advantage but 1 card disadvantage for using Nymphs.
PU + Non-Aether dragon usually has a 3 | 6 cost profit at cost of being a duo.
Shards cost roughly 2 | 1 :underworld vs Glass Shard which is X+2 | X+1 :underworld so there is X quantum disadvantage.

If PU was used on a mono-vanilla dragon profit would be worth 4 | 7.
1 Card seems roughly equivalent to 2 :underworld (looking at most generic CC such as RT, Lightning, and Shockwave), so Nymph's Tears is a raw 4 | 3 profit.
Unlike Nymphs, Shards are biased towards being stronger and overused than being underused and situational. I think inverting the advantage in this card to make X=4 :underworld is a suitable starting point for the Shard.

[ 4 :underworld ] 1.5 + 1.5 = 7.5 ≈ 8 :rainbow
-Table updated to contain all the current shards.

I would appreciate any feedback on the new version of this card.

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Re: Glass Shard | Glass Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg471003#msg471003
« Reply #16 on: March 15, 2012, 04:46:50 am »
SoC has been renamed SoJ.
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Re: Glass Shard | Glass Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg471006#msg471006
« Reply #17 on: March 15, 2012, 04:50:34 am »
SoC has been renamed SoJ.
I'm aware of that but SoJ has no given effect as of yet. I'm sticking with Shard of Conscience (which was the last completed version of the Aether Shard) until Zanz actually announces SoJ for the table but added a little note about it.

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Re: Glass Shard | Glass Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg473136#msg473136
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2012, 07:10:10 am »
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Re: Glass Shard | Refractive Shard https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=35283.msg473260#msg473260
« Reply #19 on: March 22, 2012, 10:09:42 pm »
It would be cool if these were added to half-blood decks. That would give people a reason to actually hunt half bloods rather than just going straight to arena or false-gods.
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