Betrayal | Betrayal

[MyNameIsJoey]

NAME: Betrayal ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 7 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Sacrifice a creature to steal target creature from your opponent.	NAME: Betrayal ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 6 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Sacrifice a creature to steal target creature from your opponent.

ART: http://www.sxc.hu/photo/501415 IDEA: ji412jo NOTES: Like Steal, but for a creature instead of a permanent. SERIES:

[Bonestorm]

Basically a version of TU that also insta-kill CCs? 

[MyNameIsJoey]

This one cannot be used on your own creatures, though, so you cant copy the wonderfullnesses you make.

[CCCombobreaker]

I personally think this should cost more.  The idea of paying 6 to "steal" something with a lot of buffs or something really expensive is a little scary.  Perhaps impose a penalty...

5 Vampiric Betrayal: gain control of target creature. it gets -1-1 and is a vampire
7  Vampiric Betrayal: gain control of target creature. it gets +1+2 and is a vampire

and on a side note:

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[MyNameIsJoey]

I think making it gain the vampire ability is a bit OP. Imagine you steal a 21/11 golem, you heal 20 each turn?

[CCCombobreaker]

I think making it gain the vampire ability is a bit OP. Imagine you steal a 21/11 golem, you heal 20 each turn?

better than stealing a golem and making it keep grow every turn?  obviously it helps mono darkness some but I don't think they should be stealing creatures and using their powers... and it fits the elemental theme a little better:  It is betraying it's owner because it's now a vampire.  It also means stolen small creatures die after a few turns.

And let's be real... the OP part of that is not that it becomes a vampire but that someone spent 6 to steal your 21+ attack creature

[kirchj33]

Cool card art!

[Bonestorm]

Maybe steal the creature and reduce it's HP to one or even zero? Insta-kill alone is extremely powerful.

[Sevs]

Basically a version of TU that also insta-kill CCs? 

This or more like an antimatter that instead of forcing that creature heal you, instead damage the opponent. It is cheaper and more powerful too

[Mithcairion]

Well, as a former team member I can tell you just how great it would be to have some form of "instant" CC.  The only problem I could see with this is the cost.  While I agree that it should have a higher cost due to what it does, I would rather see the cost reduced in the upped form than a bonus given to the creature stolen.

[MyNameIsJoey]

I think making it gain the vampire ability is a bit OP. Imagine you steal a 21/11 golem, you heal 20 each turn?

better than stealing a golem and making it keep grow every turn?  obviously it helps mono darkness some but I don't think they should be stealing creatures and using their powers... and it fits the elemental theme a little better:  It is betraying it's owner because it's now a vampire.  It also means stolen small creatures die after a few turns.

And let's be real... the OP part of that is not that it becomes a vampire but that someone spent 6 to steal your 21+ attack creature

If you have a darkness deck you do not have the quanta to make it grow. And BTW, making it vampire does not kill small creatures, LS does that because it also poisons it. And also, whats your problem with copying a creature that is 20+ when TU does so already?

[MyNameIsJoey]

Well, as a former team member I can tell you just how great it would be to have some form of "instant" CC.  The only problem I could see with this is the cost.  While I agree that it should have a higher cost due to what it does, I would rather see the cost reduced in the upped form than a bonus given to the creature stolen.

If i make the unupped cost 8 and the upped i remove hte bonus, would it be ok or it needs a higher cost than this?