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Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258247#msg258247
« on: January 27, 2011, 08:08:31 am »
NAME:
Battery
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
:aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
With each spell cast, battery charges 5 damage.
:aether Discharge: unload all damage upon your enemy.
NAME:
Capacitator
ELEMENT:
Aether
COST:
4 :aether
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
With each spell cast, capacitator charges 5 damage.
:aether Discharge: unload all damage upon your enemy.
ART:
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NOTES:
- Each spell can only be stored by one battery/capacitator.
- If stolen, your opponent keeps all the charged damage (+5 from the steal spell!). If they have the aether quantum to unload it, you might be in trouble.
- Can be reflected by certain shields.
- Doesn't feed on creature skills.
SERIES:
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One thing that made me a sad panda was the fact that I can't let this effect stack. Else we'd get to many stall decks spamming a few CC Spells (like lightning) and unloading all stored damage (6 x 6 x 5 =  ???) on the opponent. That would not be acceptable, so I decided, each spell can only load up one batery/capacitator.
The damage one Capacitator can deal is, in my opinion, not overpowered. If you look at the damage a Paralel Universe or Fractal can deal in one turn or the ammount of damage a single fahrenheit or firebolt can deal I don't think the capacitator is stronger. Everyone can see it sitting there, so if you can a spell, you probably know what you're doing.


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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258248#msg258248
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2011, 08:13:13 am »
Rather call it a tesla.
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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258251#msg258251
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2011, 08:16:18 am »
I think I remember that from a movie called Prestige :D

I admit I'll have to look that up to see exactly what it does though. Changing the name to Capacitator | Tesla might be an option, thanks!

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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258253#msg258253
« Reply #3 on: January 27, 2011, 08:18:58 am »
Capacitator is a rather small object, I doubt it would deal that much damage. perhaps you might want to call it a Power Coil, but I guess capacitator is okay.
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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258372#msg258372
« Reply #4 on: January 27, 2011, 03:29:06 pm »
Battery + Spark + Fractal + 8x Sparks = 77 damage for 16 :aether (95 damage for 14 :aether upgraded)

I am not claiming this is OP (it may or may not be) but I am pointing out the synergy.
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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258382#msg258382
« Reply #5 on: January 27, 2011, 03:55:54 pm »
Battery + Spark + Fractal + 8x Sparks = 77 damage for 16 :aether (95 damage for 14 :aether upgraded)

I am not claiming this is OP (it may or may not be) but I am pointing out the synergy.
has the effect changed? because sparks aren't spells

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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258406#msg258406
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2011, 04:39:43 pm »
Sparks aren't spells as far as I know. They don't get reflected by Jade Shield either do they?
Fractal is a spell however.


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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258442#msg258442
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2011, 05:36:38 pm »
I´d say this is pretty balanced, seeming as spells obviously can´t be fractalled
though  battery + Lightning could be very devastating but still not as deadly as multiple Unstable Gases on field.
6 lightning = 30 damage, > 6 charges equal 30 damage: Total = 60 damage.
the said equation is quite situational since you´d need a bit of time to draw all the necessary Lightnings and then to discharge the damage accumulated, which is why it isn´t as deadly as unstable gas which already has a whopping 20 damage to be discharged, thus making this card quite balanced.

imo, the ability name should be "Discharge"
it makes more sense.
 
 

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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg258516#msg258516
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2011, 06:58:58 pm »
Battery + Spark + Fractal + 8x Sparks = 77 damage for 16 :aether (95 damage for 14 :aether upgraded)

I am not claiming this is OP (it may or may not be) but I am pointing out the synergy.
has the effect changed? because sparks aren't spells
Sorry I am used to every card being a "spell" or a summon.
If it only counts the non creatures, non permanents then it is fine.
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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg260494#msg260494
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2011, 01:38:49 pm »
Changed the effect name to discharge, thanks for that. I'm sticking with capacitator since it's a device first constructed in Leiden, at the same university were I studied, it just feels right.

Going to submit it to the crucible now, wish me luck ;)

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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg260672#msg260672
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2011, 06:53:12 pm »
This isn't bad but the 5damage charges may be a bit high. Here is why I say this.
Unupgraded
With 1 Battery + 6 lighting bolts = 60 damage for 18  :aether (5 :aether battery cost + 12 :aether spell cost + 1 :aether activation cost)
With 2 Batteries + 6 lighting blots = 90 damage for 24  :aether (10 :aether battery cost + 12 :aether spell cost + 2 :aether activation cost)
With 3 Batteries + 6 lighting blots = 120 damage for 30  :aether (15 :aether battery cost + 12 :aether spell cost + 3 :aether activation cost)
With 4 Batteries + 6 lighting blots = 150 damage for 36  :aether (20 :aether battery cost + 12 :aether spell cost + 4 :aether activation cost)
With 5 Batteries + 6 lighting blots = 180 damage for 42  :aether (25 :aether battery cost + 12 :aether spell cost +5 :aether activation cost)
With 6 Batteries + 6 lighting blots = 210 damage for 48  :aether (30 :aether battery cost + 12 :aether spell cost + 6 :aether activation cost)
Upgraded
With 1 Capacitator + 6 lighting blots = 60 damage for 11 :aether (4 :aether battery cost + 6 :aether spell cost + 1 :aether activation cost)
With 2 Capacitator + 6 lighting blots = 90 damage for 16 :aether (8 :aether battery cost + 6 :aether spell cost + 2 :aether activation cost)
With 3 Capacitator + 6 lighting blots = 120 damage for 21 :aether (12 :aether battery cost + 6 :aether spell cost + 3 :aether activation cost)
With 4 Capacitator + 6 lighting blots = 150 damage for 26 :aether (16 :aether battery cost + 6 :aether spell cost + 4 :aether activation cost)
With 5 Capacitator + 6 lighting blots = 180 damage for 31 :aether (20 :aether battery cost + 6 :aether spell cost + 5 :aether activation cost)
With 6 Capacitator + 6 lighting blots = 210 damage for 36 :aether (24 :aether battery cost + 6 :aether spell cost + 6 :aether activation cost)


Now this is only the 12 cards listed and if more spells are cast(I'm assuming by either player) then the damage will go that much higher.

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Re: Battery | Capacitator https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20350.msg260686#msg260686
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2011, 07:02:42 pm »
"Each spell can only be stored by one battery/capacitator. "

The damage will stay at a pretty low level since stacking multiple batteries has no use. As I said before, the damage potential of Fractal, Paralel Universe, Firebolt and Drain life are much higher.
This card also has the disadvantage to be a permanent (as opposed to the spells mentioned earlier) and it has to be around for a while to get full nuke effect. In my opinion this is what makes it balanced.

 

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