Barbed Vine | Thorned Vine

[EmeraldTiger]

NAME: Barbed Vine ELEMENT: Life COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 1 | 4 TEXT: : Target creature loses 1 hp. That creature absorbs 2 of its element, if successful it gains +1|+1, per turn.	NAME: Thorned Vine ELEMENT: Life COST: 3 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 2 | 4 TEXT: : Target creature loses 2 hp. That creature absorbs 2 of its element, if successful it gains +1|+1, per turn.

ART: EmeraldTiger IDEA: EmeraldTiger NOTES: Thank you to those that helped. SERIES:

[whatifidogetcaught?]

Serpent? Lizard? That's what I feel with this card and theme. Plants seem viable as well (bush?)

Target creature loses 1 HP, gain a (maybe drug) counter. (As the creature will not gain one if it dies anyway). Drug counter gives +1 | 1 per turn.

[EmeraldTiger]

That is worth considering since we don't have too many ideas with lizards.

[whatifidogetcaught?]

I considered that before I posted. "drug" probably isn't the best counter, but I am trying to think of something that can have both a negative and positive effect.

[Anarook]

Considering the counter is a reaction to damage and includes a stacking effect. I figure something along the lines of a stimulant, perhaps a surge counter, invigorating counter, as for the card name... ermm.

I understand the damage being used a small balancer, but it become moot after the first turn of the net effect, perhaps have the next effect be an attack gain only?

[EmeraldTiger]

On the CIP board my original thought was this.
Thinking of something that does the opposite of poison or adds growth per counter. It will cancel 1 poison counter per application and vice versa. I want a creature and a spell for this. like virus.

Zblader:

Anti-Poison is already in game, growing counters isn't. I would focus on the growing counters aspect of the card. (Seems a bit like Spore counters)

Considering the counter is a reaction to damage and includes a stacking effect. I figure something along the lines of a stimulant, perhaps a surge counter, invigorating counter, as for the card name... ermm.

I understand the damage being used a small balancer, but it become moot after the first turn of the net effect, perhaps have the next effect be an attack gain only?

wouldn't that get into the territory of ?

[Nepycros]

Vine?

[EmeraldTiger]

updated

[OdinVanguard]

Interesting idea. Do the counters stack? E.g. if targeted by 2 of theses, would the creature grow by +2|+2 each round?

If so, then with many of these in play, you could quickly make something start growing VERY rapidly.

That could be a vicious combo if used with something that has a moderate amount of hp to begin with... The voodoo doll combo would be just wrong...

(a few of these + voodoo doll ... maybe throw in black nymph or liquid shadow for poison and vampire as well)

I like the idea on the face, taking a moderate starting damage in exchange for a long term payoff, but getting the mix right could be tricky...

Has anyone looked at the cost per growth rate, etc. ?

[EmeraldTiger]

Would we want the creature with the counter on it to absorb 2 quanta based on its element, in order for it to grow?

(some of this seems wrong)

  absorb
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 

  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 

[OdinVanguard]

Would we want the creature with the counter on it to absorb 2 quanta based on its element, in order for it to grow?

(some of this seems wrong)

  absorb
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 

  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 
  absorb 

That could work... although forcing specific duo rec's like that could end up giving an edge to rainbow decks since they would always have the needed side quanta.

If it simply drained quanta of the creatures type, then you would give an interesting form of quanta denial to ... given the double edge nature that might actually be fairly balanced though.

It would certainly make for a very interesting card that is versatile, but takes a good deal of skill and strategy to use effective.

 I actually really like that idea.

[EmeraldTiger]

updated