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Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1030919#msg1030919
« on: January 11, 2013, 03:44:35 am »
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
6 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:gravity :gravity :gravity : Sacrifice a card in your hand to deal 3 damage to the target, and 2 damage to surrounding creatures.
NAME:
Artillery
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:gravity :gravity : Sacrifice a card in your hand to deal 3 damage to the target, and 2 damage to surrounding creatures.

ART:
OdinVanguard
IDEA:
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Today, everything just seems to fall into place.
You could try and reach out today, but the results may be explosive.

This implements the thought of splash damage into the game and helps against massive amounts of creatures in instances of Fractal or Mitosis

"Target" defines creatures only.
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031074#msg1031074
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2013, 08:06:23 pm »
You could use:

http://i.imgur.com/dEUZq.png
or

http://i.imgur.com/ewrBQ.png

...Or if you want, I can even make a nice little cannon and merge it into one of those scenes, or even make a new one with similar effects... though you'ld have to give me a few days since my free time is limited as of late.

At any rate. I think its a very amusing idea. I would like to see more cards that use area effects. Its a nice in-between from global mass targeting and narrow single targeting.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 08:08:30 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031075#msg1031075
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2013, 08:07:41 pm »
7 :gravity to deal at most 9 damage. Another 3 after that for continuous bursts, and that's also adding +1 turn. I'm gonna have to say UP.
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031076#msg1031076
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2013, 08:13:28 pm »
If this is under powered, you could always bump damage a little, or even add some other effect / side effect.
You could shorten the wording a bit:
" :gravity :gravity : Discard a card to deal 2 damage to target and 1 to surrounding creatures."

That leaves one line if you wanted to add something else...

E.g.: " :gravity :gravity : Discard a card to deal 2 damage to target and 1 to surrounding creatures. High cost cards increase damage."
or
" :gravity :gravity : Discard a card to deal 2 damage to target and 1 to surrounding creatures. Draw a card "
or
"  :gravity :gravity : Discard a card to deal 2 damage to target and 1 to surrounding creatures. (x uses per turn)" - where X is some number that seems good.
or
"  :gravity :gravity : Discard a card to deal 2 damage to target and 1 to surrounding creatures. May stun targets "
The only issue I see here is that you would either need to make the discard effect random or the creature targeting random... Otherwise it would require 2 targets being picked.
« Last Edit: January 11, 2013, 08:15:02 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031084#msg1031084
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2013, 08:41:04 pm »
Consider 3,2 damage or other quantities than 2,1. (I would still find 3,2 UP)

What is the total activation cost? 3 :gravity + 1 card ~= 5 :gravity.
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031094#msg1031094
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2013, 09:18:47 pm »
You could use:

http://i.imgur.com/ewrBQ.png

...Or if you want, I can even make a nice little cannon and merge it into one of those scenes, or even make a new one with similar effects... though you'ld have to give me a few days since my free time is limited as of late.

At any rate. I think its a very amusing idea. I would like to see more cards that use area effects. Its a nice in-between from global mass targeting and narrow single targeting.
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Beggars can't be choosers, but I would definitely prefer the second one common out of a cannon or something. No rush obviously, its not like this is jumping to Level 3 tomorrow. Thanks for the art!

Quote from: OldTrees on January 11, 2013, 08:41:04 pm
Consider 3,2 damage or other quantities than 2,1. (I would still find 3,2 UP)

What is the total activation cost? 3 :gravity + 1 card ~= 5 :gravity.

Wow. I actually thought this might be OP. So does...3/2 damage and 1 reduced cost when bringing in game sound good?
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031104#msg1031104
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2013, 09:40:59 pm »
Cool! I was hoping someone could find a good use for it.
I still have the scene file saved, so I can work on making a cannon for you. Might take a few days. I'll post it here when done.
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031113#msg1031113
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2013, 10:01:58 pm »
Quote from: OdinVanguard on January 11, 2013, 09:40:59 pm
Cool! I was hoping someone could find a good use for it.
I still have the scene file saved, so I can work on making a cannon for you. Might take a few days. I'll post it here when done.

Thanks! You are always making art for me lol
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031126#msg1031126
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2013, 11:30:08 pm »
Quote from: whatifidogetcaught? on January 11, 2013, 09:18:47 pm
Quote from: OldTrees on January 11, 2013, 08:41:04 pm
Consider 3,2 damage or other quantities than 2,1. (I would still find 3,2 UP)

What is the total activation cost? 3 :gravity + 1 card ~= 5 :gravity.

Wow. I actually thought this might be OP. So does...3/2 damage and 1 reduced cost when bringing in game sound good?
On second thought, the casting cost might increase to 6-7 :gravity to balance the 3,2 damage. (since it is not limited to the weapon slot)

Spoiler for thinking out loud:
Owl's Eye costs 5 :air + 1 card + weapon slot for 5 attack and  :air :air for 3,0 damage
3 :air + 1 card and  :air :air for 3,0 damage
3,2 damage is about twice as powerful as 3,0 damage.
6 :air + 2 cards and  4 :air for 3,2 damage
8 :air + 1 card and  2 :air + 1 card for 3,2 damage
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031163#msg1031163
« Reply #9 on: January 12, 2013, 03:12:44 am »
So say...6 | 5 summoning cost for a 3 direct damage and 2 splash damage, with the ability cost the same? (Plus sacrificing one card in hand)
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031166#msg1031166
« Reply #10 on: January 12, 2013, 03:23:42 am »
I think so. However playtesting would always be a good idea.
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Re: Artillery | Artillery https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=45864.msg1031183#msg1031183
« Reply #11 on: January 12, 2013, 06:25:45 am »
I have changed it accordingly. Any other suggestions?
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