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Arms Thrower | Arms Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255657#msg255657
« on: January 23, 2011, 11:38:25 pm »
 
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
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COST:
6 :air
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
Weapons played go to the creature slots and have zero HP. Lasts for two turns.
NAME:
Arms Launcher
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COST:
5 :air
TYPE:
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ABILITY:
Weapons played go to the creature slots and have zero HP. Lasts for two turns.
ART:
Emerald Tiger
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The weapons have 0 HP because they are being launched at the opponent and when they lodge in an elemental the weapon would be removed in one way or another. The card disappears after a while because eventually you will overuse it and it will break or become unusable.

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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255659#msg255659
« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2011, 11:40:18 pm »
Am I reading this wrong or does it seems that using this card with an animated weapons gives it the stats x/0 w/ immortal to where it would die the first turn xD
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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255660#msg255660
« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2011, 11:41:37 pm »
Am I reading this wrong or does it seems that using this card with an animated weapons gives it the stats x/0 w/ immortal to where it would die the first turn xD
If you read the notes I explain why that fits thematically and it was also done to help balance the card. It would be played similarly to spark, where it attacks and then disappears. :)

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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255665#msg255665
« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2011, 11:48:18 pm »
The only use I see for this card would be with Arsenic / Vamp Dagger and Eclipse.

Other than that, you just kill you weapon for one hit?
An awesome Pulvy doing 5 dmg. Nothing more. Apart from Arsenic and Vamp Dagger, I don't see where this could be usefull.
care to fill me in why this should be OP?

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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255668#msg255668
« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2011, 11:50:15 pm »
Yeah I'm lost too.  How is this anything but UP'd?

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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255671#msg255671
« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2011, 11:52:30 pm »
I think it is UP, but the reason he feared it would be OP is, I think, because it is essentially a permanent flying weapon.  You could play, theoretically, 8 of a weapon in 1 turn.

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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255672#msg255672
« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2011, 11:53:18 pm »
The only use I see for this card would be with Arsenic / Vamp Dagger and Eclipse.

Other than that, you just kill you weapon for one hit?
An awesome Pulvy doing 5 dmg. Nothing more. Apart from Arsenic and Vamp Dagger, I don't see where this could be usefull.
care to fill me in why this should be OP?
You can instantly play more than 6 weapons at once for a quick burst of damage. And all weapon abilities that aren't triggered are activated. So healing from and Staff,  scramble from Discord, and Fiery from Fahrenheit activate as well.

....Now that I think about this card was a lot more OP before I made it immaterial. Now it might actually be UP. Should I remove the immaterial?
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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255675#msg255675
« Reply #7 on: January 23, 2011, 11:58:00 pm »
The only use I see for this card would be with Arsenic / Vamp Dagger and Eclipse.

Other than that, you just kill you weapon for one hit?
An awesome Pulvy doing 5 dmg. Nothing more. Apart from Arsenic and Vamp Dagger, I don't see where this could be usefull.
care to fill me in why this should be OP?
You can instantly play more than 6 weapons at once for a quick burst of damage. And all weapon abilities that aren't triggered are activated. So healing from and Staff,  scramble from Discord, and Fiery from Fahrenheit activate as well.

....Now that I think about this card was a lot more OP before I made it immaterial. Now it might actually be UP. Should I remove the immaterial?
Possibly.  The biggest threat I could see with this would be Fractaling something cheap like...a Gavel and then bombing the opponent, which is 63 damage with an empty hand.  But you could still do the same even without the Immaterial part, you would just have to fly the Gavel before doing that.

Aside from that I couldn't see spamming multiple power ups in one turn to go towards this card so I'd say it's not a big concern.
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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg255679#msg255679
« Reply #8 on: January 23, 2011, 11:59:52 pm »
Yeah removing immaterial is probably the best option. will is right, you could fly a weapon, play this, and fractal that weapon for uber damage. Removing immaterial wouldn't make it too much more powerful, I guess.
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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg256062#msg256062
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 10:40:53 am »
umm this card seems op, i mean for 13 air quanta, 9 aether quanta, 2 entropy, 1 supernova, 1 long bow, 1 animate weapon, 1 fractal, this and a skybltz you have an otk
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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg256118#msg256118
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2011, 12:47:47 pm »
umm this card seems op, i mean for 13 air quanta, 9 aether quanta, 2 entropy, 1 supernova, 1 long bow, 1 animate weapon, 1 fractal, this and a skybltz you have an otk
Yes, but comparing this to preexisting combinations:  8 :air, 9 :aether, 1 Fractal, 3 Ball Lightning, 1 Sky Blitz also gives you a OTK.  That combination requires 1 less card and 5 less quanta and yet it doesn't make Skyblitz OP (or if it does, zanz is okay with it).  If it is OP, it's not for this reason.
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Re: Weapon Launcher | Weapon Launcher https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20147.msg256145#msg256145
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2011, 01:37:09 pm »
umm this card seems op, i mean for 13 air quanta, 9 aether quanta, 2 entropy, 1 supernova, 1 long bow, 1 animate weapon, 1 fractal, this and a skybltz you have an otk
Yes, but comparing this to preexisting combinations:  8 :air, 9 :aether, 1 Fractal, 3 Ball Lightning, 1 Sky Blitz also gives you a OTK.  That combination requires 1 less card and 5 less quanta and yet it doesn't make Skyblitz OP (or if it does, zanz is okay with it).  If it is OP, it's not for this reason.
um last time i checked 5 is more than 4
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