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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg225830#msg225830
« Reply #60 on: December 16, 2010, 08:50:24 am »
Maybe there should be a series for this. I mean, who knows if the world is going to end in :fire?
You've already posted that >.> pretty much the same words...


Regarding the card:
1. It'll never get into the game (instant kill / apparently killing even immortal creatures, whom aren't killed by RoF / Mass PC, which doesn't exist, and is the reason why PA doesn't have any specification about non targeting PC)
2. I think the main problem is that IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY COUNTER, which is a heck of a problem.
3. The AI will NEVER be prepared for this. In PvP IDK, I never play in it.
4. I just don't like the idea of a "reset button" at all, while this + a miracle would give you an awesome advantage against non-healing decks...

I saw someone challenged us to make an OP deck with this, but I challenge you to make any kind of counter you can find to this.
If it doesn't help in any use in a deck nor has any counter... Well, it's not OP neither UP, it's BROKEN.

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg225838#msg225838
« Reply #61 on: December 16, 2010, 09:16:21 am »
Yup, like I said zanz doesn't like instant kill effects.

But what if the AI used it? I guess that will be quite a bummer.
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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg225840#msg225840
« Reply #62 on: December 16, 2010, 09:30:38 am »
But what if the AI used it? I guess that will be quite a bummer.
I didn't think about that... But it'll hardly be prepared to use this correctly :(
Anyways, I was meaning you using this card against the AI's :D

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg228086#msg228086
« Reply #63 on: December 19, 2010, 08:41:42 am »
@Kuro , how can i check who is the artist? i asked the owner of that site i taken the pic from , he said this image is not his property and he doesnt know who is the artist.
Well... usually if I can't figure out who the artist is, I don't bother trying to reuse the art again, in case the image-hosting site I uploaded it to takes it down for one reason or another. Most times, if I see a piece of art on a website that doesn't have any information on the artist, I do as much research as I can given time restraints to see if someone else has used the art, if it's free to use, etc. to get a feel on whether or not it's okay to utilize.


...that said, Apocalypse can be an easy enough 'theme' to design art for, so it's okay. It'll be moved up into the Crucible soon. :)

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg230966#msg230966
« Reply #64 on: December 22, 2010, 06:00:20 pm »
@Kuro , how can i check who is the artist? i asked the owner of that site i taken the pic from , he said this image is not his property and he doesnt know who is the artist.
Well... usually if I can't figure out who the artist is, I don't bother trying to reuse the art again, in case the image-hosting site I uploaded it to takes it down for one reason or another. Most times, if I see a piece of art on a website that doesn't have any information on the artist, I do as much research as I can given time restraints to see if someone else has used the art, if it's free to use, etc. to get a feel on whether or not it's okay to utilize.


...that said, Apocalypse can be an easy enough 'theme' to design art for, so it's okay. It'll be moved up into the Crucible soon. :)
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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg265521#msg265521
« Reply #65 on: February 06, 2011, 04:01:16 pm »
I just came across this, and wow. It sure stired up some heated discussion here.

I must agree with those saying this card is OP. I'd even go far to say that even if this wasn't OP, it wouldn't be a good addition to this game because it'd cheapen the game. I use fire deck, so I'd naturally vote for strong fire cards. However, even as a fire user, I don't like this card at all.

It upsets the balance among elements. Fire deck is already strong as is. Adding this card would not be desirable. Not to mention, fire deck has cremation and does not need pillars/towers. So, destroying all cards on the field is not just reseting but giving too much advantage to the fire user. The opponent is doomed b/c he has to start over. The fire user for this card can simply use cremation and resume with no difficulty.

I'm also quessing that Pheonix can survive this because it just turns into ash, right? That's another ridiculous advantage to the fire user who uses this card.

I'm really surprised that a card like this is one of the top voted cards in crucible at the moment.

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg265866#msg265866
« Reply #66 on: February 06, 2011, 09:15:04 pm »
And yet people continue to think it can just contradict another card and get away with it.

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg265874#msg265874
« Reply #67 on: February 06, 2011, 09:18:24 pm »
And yet people continue to think it can just contradict another card and get away with it.

Mirror Shied: Cannot be destroyed or stolen.

You'd think those words would have more impact. >.>
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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg266310#msg266310
« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2011, 10:36:48 am »
I'm also quessing that Pheonix can survive this because it just turns into ash, right? That's another ridiculous advantage to the fire user who uses this card.

Nope. Please read carefully the first post and the notes of the card.
I hate when people dont read carefully then judge not knowing what they talk about.

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg270415#msg270415
« Reply #69 on: February 14, 2011, 01:02:02 am »
My bad, but I didn't "judge," my friend. I only "expressed my opinion." I also said, "I'm guessing," which acknowledge that even more so.

While I appreciate your clarification, it unfortunately makes me like this card even less. I read the specs like you suggested, and what it basically says is that this card is an almighty card that no card can stand against. IMO, no card game should have a card like that.

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg302471#msg302471
« Reply #70 on: March 31, 2011, 06:39:09 pm »
this card is good when your enemy have many creatures on the filed or much pillar.it will be good vs fg

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Re: Apocalypse | Apocalypse https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=17546.msg302546#msg302546
« Reply #71 on: March 31, 2011, 08:28:15 pm »
this card is good when your enemy have many creatures on the filed or much pillar.it will be good vs fg
But what if an FG has this and uses it on you?

 

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