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Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237122#msg237122
« on: December 31, 2010, 04:16:34 pm »

Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon
NAME: Amethyst Cannon
ELEMENT: Entropy
COST: :entropy
TYPE: Creature
ATK|HP: 2|6
TEXT: :fire : Ignite Cannon
Attacks a random enemy creature for this turn.
NAME: Chaos Cannon
ELEMENT: Entropy
COST: :entropy
TYPE: Creature
ATK|HP: 4|7
TEXT: :fire : Ignite Cannon
Attacks a random enemy creature for this turn.
ART: Nik_V
IDEA: Nik_V
NOTES: - When the ability  :fire : Ignite Cannon is used, this creature attacks a random enemy creature this turn instead of attacking the opponent.
- After the ability is used, if there are no enemy units, it will attack the opponent.

Comment : A simple creature killer i designed which can can do cool combos and have strategic uses with many cards.

Example :

- If you are facing a creature spam, you can cast  :life Adrenaline on it, so it will attack 4 times hitting 4 random enemy creatures.
- If you are facing few tough creatures, you can use  :fire Rage Potion on this creature to take them out.
:entropy Chaos Power and  :light Blessings can be used to make him a one tough cannon.  :D
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237131#msg237131
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2010, 04:24:33 pm »
Entropy/? ? ? with a fire splash? Muy bueno!
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237155#msg237155
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2010, 04:52:58 pm »
Wow, Thanks.   ^_^
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237159#msg237159
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2010, 04:56:31 pm »
Good thematic fit.
Note: Adrenaline will make the upped only attack 3 times [4,3,2] not 4.

The unupped feels balanced however the upgrade is too small 6->7 HP is not much and the +2atk is equal to the +2cost.

To fix either:
Increase upped HP to 8
Increase upped Atk to 5
Decrease upped Cost to 5

I feel that it currently has more Fire feel than Entropy feel.
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237160#msg237160
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2010, 04:57:25 pm »
Good thematic fit.
Note: Adrenaline will make the upped only attack 3 times [4,3,2] not 4.

The unupped feels balanced however the upgrade is too small 6->7 HP is not much and the +2atk is equal to the +2cost.

To fix either:
Increase upped HP to 8
Increase upped Atk to 5
Decrease upped Cost to 5
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237170#msg237170
« Reply #5 on: December 31, 2010, 05:08:35 pm »
Made the necessary changes. Is it ready for Crucible now ? 
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237174#msg237174
« Reply #6 on: December 31, 2010, 05:11:14 pm »
Made the necessary changes. Is it ready for Crucible now ?
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237721#msg237721
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2011, 04:45:45 am »
I was thinking, if the upped one could target anything, you could use  :entropy Antimatter on the cannon and use it to heal your friendly creatures or yourself. Then it could also target opponent directly to bypass sheilds but i think the current one is fine too.
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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237748#msg237748
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2011, 05:23:26 am »
That's an interesting idea but it takes out the whole element of entropy about it, pun clearly intended.

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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg237750#msg237750
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2011, 05:29:37 am »
I like this card.
One issue might be Rage Potion lovers like me. Oh look a 7/1 or 10/1 that attacks your creatures.... Not really a big issue though due to the fact that it can then be killed with little effort at that point and it's a combo that you would need more than a mark to pull off.

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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg247097#msg247097
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2011, 03:34:19 am »
Without getting fancy, 6x this/CP + 3x discord +15x tower seems overly strong.  Repeatable CC is a rare and valuable commodity in EtG.  For example, after you account for the extra attack and HP, a parasite isn't much cheaper, but immensely less effective.  It can't be easily boosted either. An easy way to fix this without messing with the idea too much would be to increase the cost of fire cannon. 

Now, on the other side...  Fire and entropy is an unused combo.  So while promoting unused combos is great design, fire and entropy aren't used together for a reason.  They have no synergy.  A couple cards, (such as rage potion and explosion) are still useful in a duo with both elements, but most cards are redundant.  The main power of this duo is going to rest on one card.  That means that it's probably okay for chaos cannon to be stronger than an average card.  The balance should be just about right then, which is impressive. :)

As a side note, to maintain consistency with other cards, the effect of adrenaline would probably not be to have the cannon attack creatures four times, but to have it attack creatures once, then go for HP.  At least, that's baisically how adrenaline works with dive.


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Re: Amethyst Cannon | Chaos Cannon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18620.msg247106#msg247106
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2011, 03:50:33 am »
The ability and random targeting paired with fire`s cc.  The card goes well with the respected elements.

 

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