Alchemy Circle | Magic Circle

[karis]

NAME: Alchemy Circle ELEMENT: Water COST: 2 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: When you play a card, generate 1 quanta of that card element or 3 random quanta if it be other.	NAME: Magic Circle ELEMENT: Water COST: 5 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: When you play a card, generate 1 quanta of that card element or 3 random quanta if it be other.

ART: Kamietsu...  and zanz? IDEA: karis NOTES: simple.  right?    this card ability is unstackable (even if you have hundred of it.  it's still generate only 1/3 quanta) why it's be alchemy in unupgrade and magic in upgraded...  cuz water is element of alchemy,  if you can cast it with all other element it's not alchemy at all.  SERIES:

[funerallaughter]

Woah! 2 to 6 costs? Haha, I don't think we're ready for a card which makes Shards be free after the first 6 , or have an instant Fractal or Miracle after a Spark or Photon Fractal Spam.

OP for now, I believe.

[BloodAngel]

Woah! 2 to 6 costs? Haha, I don't think we're ready for a card which makes Shards be free after the first 6 , or have an instant Fractal or Miracle after a Spark or Photon Fractal Spam.

OP for now, I believe.

yeah, the upped is stackable, thats why the cost increased that much. I do think 4 should be enough..

but the things stated above, would be kinda OP indeed,

[karis]

understand for double fractak...  but how could you wanna use double miracle?

you make me so confuse...  said it very OP and tell me to down in cost....

[funerallaughter]

understand for double fractak...  but how could you wanna use double miracle?

you make me so confuse...  said it very OP and tell me to down in cost....

Sorry, I should have made this clear ><"

Double Miracle if you can chain two RoL Fractal sets one after the other (best comes to best: Hand = Ray of Light x6, Fractal x1, Miracle x1) play one miracle, then the mentioned hand, then another miracle the next turn.

Secondly, about the 2 to 6 cost, I wasn't talking about lowering the cost, but more of a question to why you'd think the cost difference would be so high in the first place? I know, a stretch =.=

I don't think it should be stackable under any circumstance.

[rohlfo]

I don't think it should be stackable under any circumstance.

I agree. One idea might be to make the upped  so any element can use it, or perhaps give double quanta back?
I like the general idea though

[karis]

@funerallaughter
about cost part i'm talk with bloodangel...  heh..   maybe i'm should write  @name everytime...   lol

@rohlfo
um...   upgraded it cost a bit and change it to cost  ?   interesting...


if i'm can find a way to make this card can't combo with fractal (or something)   are you still think it's OP?

[Ajit]

I like the concept.  Perhaps, as others have said, it could use a significant nerf, but I like the idea.

The first thing that comes to mind;

"When you play a card, absorb one random quanta and produce a quanta of that card's element."

Significantly weaker, but is nice for focused quanta production.

[achangeofpace]

What if instead it had a limit of turns in play (kinda like Cloak or Sundial). That way even if the opponent can't destroy it, it still wouldn't be enough to ensure their defeat.

Or you could just make it random quanta no matter what...

[Hyroen]

If Fire is the element that acquires quanta even through sacrificing creatures then it makes sense that Water be the element of resourcefulness and saving quanta.

Aside I'd call them both Alchemy Circles and have the unupped cost 4 . Considering upon playing it from your hand it will have only cost you 3 technically, I think that should be fine.

As for the upgraded version, reduce cost by 1 to 3 and you have yourself a strong contender for the Crucible, and a strong card in general.

Hopefully the art comes soon. I'm excited about this card.

[karis]

@Ajit
for me.  that way still hard to use.   mono don't wanna use that.  and can make a problem for duo/trio that want much quanta.

@achangeofpace
that's good.   so simple but still look good.  lower it cost and make it stay for 2-4 turn. 

or random quanta.  i'm like it (and think i'm will change in to that way).  cuz water is an element that have a great synergy with other element...

@Hyroen
heh..  you don't think now it's OP?  wow...  thx   

btw..  are you really wanna see it's art...   so sorry to say if don't have anyone can help me with this. i'm must make it by myself (and with paint....  ewwww.....)

[rohlfo]

btw..  are you really wanna see it's art...   so sorry to say if don't have anyone can help me with this. i'm must make it by myself (and with paint....  ewwww.....)

I use this online if that's any use to you: http://pixlr.com/editor/