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Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499684#msg499684
« on: May 17, 2012, 02:21:16 am »
NAME:
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Earth
COST:
3 :earth
TYPE:
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ATK|HP:
TEXT:
May destroy your permanent.
:earth : Propogate
Generate an Alate Hive on your opponent's side.

NAME:
Alate Hive
ELEMENT:
Earth
COST:
2 :earth
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
May destroy your permanent.
:earth : Propogate
Generate an Alate Hive on your opponent's side.

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This was my entry for Round 3 of Card Design War 2.

Okay, so more entomology facts.  Alate refers to a subcaste inside ants, wasps, and, in this case, termites.  It should be noted that those in this category are winged, hence the swarming specks around what I mean to be a hive of sorts.  And because this is focusing on termites, not another winged insect, I felt it belonged in :earth  since it also includes the bigger part.  The mound.

Also, what sets aside these winged variants are their role in reproduction.  This is seen in the ability Propogate, which would theoretically force the mass reproduction of termite workers, who would, in turn, create another mound.  And the second ability comes into play when these termites, mound now secure, go out to forage for food, which would be the players' permanents.

Now I felt that a self-sustaining source of permanent control was too overpowered, so i made it also have the chance to be used against the owner.  The first line comes from the ever so small chance of the hive on your side to destroy one of your permanents.  Also, the opponent has the chance to flood your permanent slots with hives, should they have the proper quanta.  Keep in mind that Alate Hives are also subject to being destroyed by this effect.

Time for mechanics specifics.
-The chance to destroy a random permanent is defined by the equation (N+3)/20, where N is the amount of Alate Hives are in a player's possession at the end of the turn.  This means a base 20% chance to destroy a permanent, low enough to prevent mass destruction, but high enough that it just may be among those to self-destruct.  This may be adjusted in the face of balancing before the end of this round.

- Only one permanent may be destroyed per stack per Alate Hive, so a stack being targeted will not be obliterated by only one Alate Hive.

- The chosen permanent to be destroyed is chose n by stack.  So if there are 9 earth pillars and 1 hive, then there is a 50% chance a pillar will be destroyed.

- Only one permanent may be destroyed per turn.  So despite having spawned several Alate Hives on your opponent's side, their permanents will not be completely wiped out in a turn or three.

- Of course, immaterial permanents are unaffected.

Remember, this destroys permanents on the same side.
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499692#msg499692
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2012, 02:27:31 am »
This looks like a really cool concept.

What is the chance of destroying a permanent? 
How is the destroyed permanent chosen? (randomly, first played)
Do permanents in stacks have a greater chance of being destroyed? 
Is the entire stack destroyed, or only one at a time? 
Can shields and weapons be destroyed?
How does this work with Protect Artifact?

Also, your art link just brings you straight to the image URL, not the source.  Did you make it yourself?  If you didn't, I think you need the source in there.
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499694#msg499694
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2012, 02:28:46 am »
I understand that it works well in the element of EA but thematically how does this card embody themes of :earth Earth?
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499695#msg499695
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2012, 02:31:43 am »
You can now go around to find better artwork for this card. It seems too... abstract, to say the least. Which is fine during the competition, but not in unrestricted card making.
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499698#msg499698
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2012, 02:32:03 am »
This looks like a really cool concept.

What is the chance of destroying a permanent? 
How is the destroyed permanent chosen? (randomly, first played)
Do permanents in stacks have a greater chance of being destroyed? 
Is the entire stack destroyed, or only one at a time? 
Can shields and weapons be destroyed?
How does this work with Protect Artifact?

Also, your art link just brings you straight to the image URL, not the source.  Did you make it yourself?  If you didn't, I think you need the source in there.

I suggest reading the Notes.  All of those questions are answered therein.

As for the art, I shall consult with Kuro, as he is the one who provided the images for competition.  However, it is on a free uploading site that does not track the owners [to my knowledge], so I'm led to believe that it is fine for now.  I will try to find better art.

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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499700#msg499700
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2012, 02:33:11 am »
You can now go around to find better artwork for this card. It seems too... abstract, to say the least. Which is fine during the competition, but not in unrestricted card making.

I think it looks pretty nice.  It's a pillar (with semblance to Quantum Tower) that is peeking over a pink fog while it is swarmed by bugs.
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499702#msg499702
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2012, 02:34:25 am »
I understand that it works well in the element of EA but thematically how does this card embody themes of :earth Earth?
Well, Termites have always struck me as an :earth creature, especially with their mounds.  I can't really say much more right now.

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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499704#msg499704
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2012, 02:35:19 am »
I understand that it works well in the element of EA but thematically how does this card embody themes of :earth Earth?

Earth doesn't use many permanents, it already has Pulverizer for PC, and it has Protect Artifact to protect yourself from Alate Hive.
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499707#msg499707
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2012, 02:38:43 am »
I understand that it works well in the element of EA but thematically how does this card embody themes of :earth Earth?
Well, Termites have always struck me as an :earth creature, especially with their mounds.  I can't really say much more right now.
I see the :earth connection... though I think :life would work too. (and would give the element a feature which it currently lacks).
Should be a fun card...
I apologize if I just didn't see it, but does this card stack or will each copy occupy a separate slot?

P.S. Where is the forum board for the Card Design War... I may want to join one this summer.
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499710#msg499710
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg499881#msg499881
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2012, 08:04:32 am »
This is a really interesting new idea for new PC. However, many other elements would benifit much more from this than :earth. As suggested before, :life could do with it, and can fit thematically.
Also, "May destroy your permanent" seems a bit vauge. "One of your permanents" or even "a friendly permanent" would make slightly more sense.

Great card overall, though!  :D
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Re: Alate Hive | Alate Hive https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40302.msg500235#msg500235
« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2012, 12:16:03 am »
Wait a minute... This is different from the idea I told you about Drake. I like the fortune
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