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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104886#msg1104886
« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2013, 01:13:59 am »
Agree, otherwise this would be a nerf fractal thread. The problem is that this creature is too good as a fractal target as it stands currently. We must also nerf it in a way that doesn't make it useless in other contexts (avoiding a forced combo).

Also you can't fractal immaterial creatures, so I'm curious about how you build a dragontal with phase dragons.
I would support a small cost increase as a nerf to this, but not really anything else. And I'm not the one who said mono aether dragontal :P
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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104887#msg1104887
« Reply #25 on: October 22, 2013, 01:21:34 am »
You can't fractal dragons in a mono either.
And yes, you can fractal dragons in a mono.

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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104889#msg1104889
« Reply #26 on: October 22, 2013, 01:35:11 am »
You can't fractal dragons in a mono either.
And yes, you can fractal dragons in a mono.
I don't see the word aether.
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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104891#msg1104891
« Reply #27 on: October 22, 2013, 01:46:36 am »
Certainly, but waiting for the opponent to play their dragons isn't viable.

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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104895#msg1104895
« Reply #28 on: October 22, 2013, 01:57:16 am »
Certainly, but waiting for the opponent to play their dragons isn't viable.
I didn't say wait for the opponent either...
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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104902#msg1104902
« Reply #29 on: October 22, 2013, 02:08:20 am »
Well played.

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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104946#msg1104946
« Reply #30 on: October 22, 2013, 05:37:56 am »
might I suggest making attack = X+? & HP = Y+?. X = based on the opponents cards in hand. Y= the controler's
Cards in hand. is that too complicated?
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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104959#msg1104959
« Reply #31 on: October 22, 2013, 07:46:41 am »
and upped could be reversed so the opponent controls health and can kill it.
maybe too much synergy for dark-aether Cronamaretal decks that give both you and your opponent heaps of cards in hand

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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1104966#msg1104966
« Reply #32 on: October 22, 2013, 08:45:29 am »
Certainly, but waiting for the opponent to play their dragons isn't viable.
I didn't say wait for the opponent either...

What, you want to mindgate dragons? (Good luck getting the quanta for making this work) Explain yourself, as I said I'm curious.

My proposal for a nerf would be for X to be half the cards in your hand, this way you get less variation too and it is easier to reason about the card. I'd make health equal to X too. Increase the cost by 1 too and increase the base attack by 1 so it's not too UP next to other creatures of it's cost.
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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1105008#msg1105008
« Reply #33 on: October 22, 2013, 02:24:58 pm »
I'm curious as to why you guys are assuming everything but having both the dragons and fractal yourselves.
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« Reply #34 on: October 22, 2013, 02:31:50 pm »
I'm curious as to why you guys are assuming everything but having both the dragons and fractal yourselves.

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Re: Aetherial Cronarch | Aetherial Cronarch https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=51902.msg1105013#msg1105013
« Reply #35 on: October 22, 2013, 02:33:02 pm »
I'm curious as to why you guys are assuming everything but having both the dragons and fractal yourselves.

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