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Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267618#msg267618
« on: February 09, 2011, 12:14:30 pm »

Current version

NAME:
Absorption
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
5 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
The opponent's pillars and pendulums generate quanta for you instead of the opponent for 1 turn.
NAME:
Absorption
ELEMENT:
Darkness
COST:
4 :darkness
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
The opponent's pillars and pendulums generate quanta for you instead of the opponent for 1 turn.
ART:
Eeliss
http://www.sxc.hu/profile/Eeliss
The picture itself is here:
http://www.sxc.hu/photo/1155227
IDEA:
evima
NOTES:
- Next time the opponent ends his/her turn, his/her pillars/pendulums produce quanta for you, not for him/her.
- Multiple uses of this card in 1 turn don't extend the duration of the effect.
SERIES:

Former version (belonged to Gravity, no other change (except the art))

NAME:
Absorption
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
5 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
The opponent's pillars and pendulums generate quanta for you instead of the opponent for 1 turn.
NAME:
Absorption
ELEMENT:
Gravity
COST:
4 :gravity
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:
TEXT:
The opponent's pillars and pendulums generate quanta for you instead of the opponent for 1 turn.
ART:
dream designs
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/view_photog.php?photogid=1449 (http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/view_photog.php?photogid=1449)
The picture itself is here:
http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/Multicolored_g336-Digital_Background_p19524.html (http://www.freedigitalphotos.net/images/Multicolored_g336-Digital_Background_p19524.html)
IDEA:
evima
NOTES:
- Next time the opponent ends his/her turn, his/her pillars/pendulums produce quanta for you, not for him/her.
- Multiple uses of this card in 1 turn don't extend the duration of the effect.
SERIES:
Why not Gravity?

I (or this card?) miss Gravity but...

- Gravity already has a similar-looking card, Black Hole.
May be redundant, or too powerful if both can be played by same type of quanta.
It seems that this card is little strong according to the poll, so I wanted to balance it a bit.

- Darkness elementals are masters of subtlety; they can hide, absorb energies and
manage the creatures that dwell in the shadows (from the in-game description).
Thematically no problem with Darkness, as well as Gravity.

Others

This is the first time that I have posted a card idea.
I searched for ideas like this (using the opponent's quanta source) already posted, but didn't find anything.
Advice about the wording of the card text is also welcome (I'm poor at English).

rohlfo

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267621#msg267621
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2011, 12:43:56 pm »
nice one! That's a cool idea!
Also well done for getting the format right and linking the art correctly (something I, and even experienced card makers, still get wrong sometimes :s)


evima

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267770#msg267770
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2011, 09:19:09 pm »
nice one! That's a cool idea!
Also well done for getting the format right and linking the art correctly (something I, and even experienced card makers, still get wrong sometimes :s)
Thanks. :) I'm glad my effort not to make a single mistake was successful.

Can anyone suggest me a way to improve this idea?
To be honest, I myself can't find how to use this card,
other than just annoying the opponent.

<EDIT> My head was not working well when writing this.

skyreal

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267775#msg267775
« Reply #3 on: February 09, 2011, 09:26:03 pm »
Excellent idea!!! Great job.

It can obviously help a rainbow deck. Otherwise it's always a good thing to counter quanta production ;)

rohlfo

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267776#msg267776
« Reply #4 on: February 09, 2011, 09:26:29 pm »
nice one! That's a cool idea!
Also well done for getting the format right and linking the art correctly (something I, and even experienced card makers, still get wrong sometimes :s)
Thanks. I'm glad my effort not to make a single mistake was successful.

Can anyone suggest me a way to improve this idea?
To be honest, I myself can't find how to use this card,
other than just annoying the opponent.
does it need improving?
In terms of quanta it gives you a whole turn advantage, as well as giving you extra quanta.
The only thing I worry about is  :gravity already having Black Hole, which with this would cause serious delay to any poor soul, but it does fit  :gravity thematically, and isn't too cheap, so who knows....
(I'm not the most experienced person though, so best wait for others to comment if you want more detailed/intense feedback)

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267777#msg267777
« Reply #5 on: February 09, 2011, 09:27:15 pm »
Well, if Entropy and Gravity are already sort of paired, this makes great sense. It'd be a nifty card for a rainbow stall, too.
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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267778#msg267778
« Reply #6 on: February 09, 2011, 09:28:23 pm »
Awesome card :D
Fits Gravity pretty well.

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267831#msg267831
« Reply #7 on: February 09, 2011, 10:11:21 pm »
I have to say I really like this one. Deadly denial with Black Hole, but probably not the most effective deck and very appropriate.

Perhaps the icon for the pillars and pendulums could look something like this:

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267857#msg267857
« Reply #8 on: February 09, 2011, 10:27:37 pm »
I have to say I really like this one. Deadly denial with Black Hole, but probably not the most effective deck and very appropriate.

Perhaps the icon for the pillars and pendulums could look something like this:

Ooh! That's pretty!
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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267886#msg267886
« Reply #9 on: February 09, 2011, 11:02:19 pm »
Thank you everyone! :)
I'm happy to see this idea is accepted better than I expected.
I realized this card can have a decent effect, especially with Black Holes, as many ones said.
But now I'm little worried about one thing:
if most people say there's no need to change, may I submit this without a single change
to the Crucible? Or do I still have to change something like the cost?
In that case, I'll add a poll asking whether this card is strong or weak,
and change the cost according to the result.

Surprisingly, this is exactly what is in my head.

rohlfo

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267892#msg267892
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2011, 11:07:44 pm »
may I submit this without a single change
to the Crucible? Or do I still have to change something like the cost?
You don't have to change anything, but often it's the case that a card needs small (or large) changes to make it less OP/UP or a cost change, wording of the effect etc. That's what other people's comments are for, to help get the card right, but yours looks fine (to me at least, others may disagree, that's the thing with opinions...)

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Re: Absorption | Absorption https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20970.msg267904#msg267904
« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2011, 11:21:27 pm »
You don't have to change anything, but often it's the case that a card needs small (or large) changes to make it less OP/UP or a cost change, wording of the effect etc. That's what other people's comments are for, to help get the card right, but yours looks fine (to me at least, others may disagree, that's the thing with opinions...)
That's right. :) I'll wait for more opinions.
But I decided to start a poll now, because I just want to know people's reactions,
not only for when there are no suggestion of change.

 

anything
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