healing/lifestealing only NO EM?

[Acab Jef]

I think you all have this problem:

Having 99/100 lifepoints and then killing your opponent with a vampire dagger/life steal/jade staff/etc..
After the damage the fight is over, there is no EM even knowing the hit should steal lifepoints?
Is this a bug? I don't think so, but it is really annoying.
The damage just comes first and kills the opponent. But the hit should steal lifepoints and make you have an elemental mastery.

I don't know if this is the right forum board to post this and if there are any new topic's about this, if so i will delete my topic and discuss about this in the right topic.

[Higurashi]

What actually happens here is that the game ends with your HP -over- 100, thus denying you an EM. iirc, this started happening after zanz fixed a bug with AM healing coming before Poison damage, thus making AM far too effective vs. Poison. The community guessed the order of damage and healing changed, and this started happening. Yes, it's now harder to get EM with vampiric damage. Usually what you do is stabilise your lead before you win so you can either calculate how to get exactly 100 HP or just not take any damage on the previous turn, or you use something like Drain Life to get back to full HP before you attack.

You should change your topic to lifestealing only, because healing works as normal. Use a Heal on the last turn and you'll get EM. Same with Stone Skin or deckout with something like Sanctuary.

[CuCN]

Druidic staff is healing that this topic applies to, so it's not lifestealing only.

[Higurashi]

Oh, that's good to know. Makes sense considering the order problem.

[Acab Jef]

yes , but i mean if you make the kill with the lifestealing damage you do not heal, you just finish the game

i got some decks where i find this annoying, here is an example:

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for the ones who don't know this deck: blessing the vampire daggers, then equip the daggers (2x blessing bonus). then it is eassy EM

the damage is only vampire (and a little just from the crusaders before equiping the daggers). when you have 99 hp and kill the opponent, you do not get EM. if you want to try out, it is not that hard (AI3 95% win) and with like 2-3/10 wins i got this problem.

[Higurashi]

Like I said, it's a known bug with when the game ends. You actually heal OVER 100 HP, which means you don't end the game on 100 HP and thus you don't get an EM. You need to end with full HP, not over full HP. 104 out of 100 is too much x)

[Fippe94]

Huh, really? I didn't know that. So if you heal to exactly 100 hp with vampire/druid staff, you do get EM?

[Acab Jef]

but if you end with more then 100 max hp (stone skin/SoD) you get more electrum, why do i still get 19 electrum(AI3) instead of 21 because it is over 100hp and no EM.

but i got a lot of EM when the hit before the final hit healed me up to 100(sometimes 100+, but it got me back down because 100 is max) hp, i am not sure if i understand what you are saying

[Higurashi]

Because Stone Skin/SoD increases both your max HP and your current HP. 104/104 = EM. 104/100 =/= EM.

[Acab Jef]

but it does not say 104/100 it is still 99/100

[Fippe94]

I tested in trainer, I had 96 hp at the end of turn and killed my opponent with my 4 damage vampire dagger. I did not get EM.

[Higurashi]

Mkay, that's another problem where the ending of the game comes before the received healing. This is also a known bug, iirc. Moving this to Report a Bug.