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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg32899#msg32899
« Reply #408 on: March 04, 2010, 11:29:44 pm »
i choose gravity cause its good... which element is not the question... but to rip the hell out of a deck, which "seems" to be better than mine, thats what i will!
its a symphatic choise... everybody whines, cause evil is sooo broken and good is sooo weak... shut the f*ck up... if you cant win against evil, you are weak, not the element!

im conform with scaredgirl... there is a matter for this event... its fun! and yes, you can have fun without winning and dominating all others! just try first and stop whining...
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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg32929#msg32929
« Reply #409 on: March 05, 2010, 12:00:21 am »
400+ post so far.  Imbalance issues or not, this event has generated lots of interest and hopefully will continue on.   

I still want to join in on this, just need to get on a team.   


 


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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg32971#msg32971
« Reply #410 on: March 05, 2010, 01:02:45 am »
I think the good vs evil battle is a neat idea and I'm looking forward to whenever we get around to playing.  : )

Maybe this event would have gone smoother without ~14 pages of anticipation from the teaser & recruitment posters.  When you find out a week later that the rules don't match your expectations, you might feel a little mislead.  There probably would have been a lot less friction if people knew what they were getting into in the first place.   

SIGN UP! >> Here's the rules. >> 'I don't like it.'

Here's the rules.  If you don't like it, don't sign up.

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg32983#msg32983
« Reply #411 on: March 05, 2010, 01:21:18 am »
i agree with the above post.

You need to post ALL the rules before hand and not edit them unless you mess something up or missed something.

It removes alot of confuse.

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33000#msg33000
« Reply #412 on: March 05, 2010, 01:32:45 am »
I like a challenge, but in my opinion, your could have divvied up the elements a little bit differently.

Good (Canon):
Light
Life

Evil (Canon):
Dark
Poison
Fire

Those are really the only elements that are OBVIOUS candidates for those. I don't see why Earth has to be evil. Imo, the Earth is actually a pretty cool place to live on. Entropy is randomness; it could be either. Time is just... time. It could also be either. Water is probably swayed towards good, and aether is pretty much swayed towards evil. But both could make sense on the other side as well. And air and gravity are both just forces too; neither evil nor good.

It just doesn't make sense how you divvied up the elements since most of them could go evil or good. But you decided to give good all the lighter colored elements and evil all the darker colored ones, which as others have pointed out results in something rather imbalanced. Instead of going by the "color" of an element, which it seems you did, you should put the canon elements on the sides they need to and then work from there.

I would have more fun knowing I have a *chance* at winning, versus knowing I'll probably lose.

Here's what I would do:

Good:
Light
Life
Water
Air
Earth
Gravity

Evil:
Dark
Death
Fire
Entropy
Aether
Time (Chronos = somewhat evil titan >_>)

Basically I swapped earth and time. So now good has that amazing gravity/earth synergy, can protect its permanents, and can also destroy some. And evil has two instead of one element with permanent control.

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33002#msg33002
« Reply #413 on: March 05, 2010, 01:34:28 am »
But if you'll look, Scared girl tried to keep elemental rivals apart.

So air and earth weren't on a team, and neither were aether/time.  I'm pretty sure Scaredgirl just looked at each pairing and figured out which one went which way.

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33008#msg33008
« Reply #414 on: March 05, 2010, 01:39:24 am »
I don't see any elements as having rivals, other than death/life and dark/light and water/fire.

Why is time/aether a rivalry? I see no connection between the two other than that they have a good synergy. They aren't the opposite of eachother.

Air/earth is more of a symbiotic relationship versus a rivalry. I mean, the air kinda needs to have the earth and vice versa or else life wouldn't exist. Hey, look! An argument to have life, air, and earth on the same team!

Entropy/Gravity... I see no connection. Why would they be rivals? (Even though I did put them on opposing teams, it could have just as easily been entropy on good too.)

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33018#msg33018
« Reply #415 on: March 05, 2010, 01:43:33 am »
Scaredgirl decided that, ala the masters tournament.  She paired upt he rivals of each element, here she split them into teams of which thought were good or evil.

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33022#msg33022
« Reply #416 on: March 05, 2010, 01:49:42 am »
Scaredgirl decided that, ala the masters tournament.  She paired upt he rivals of each element, here she split them into teams of which thought were good or evil.
And I disagree with them being rivals. Sure, they make good matchups and it makes sense they play each other, but that doesn't make it good and evil. Brothers fight every now and then, too.

(Note: To understand the following, you need to understand American college football. And know enough about it to know some different conferences and rivalries).

Just because elements are rivals doesn't mean they're on opposing sides. I'm a University of Michigan fan, and we're big rivals with Ohio State, but when it comes to bowl games I still root for OSU since we're on the same side: the Big Ten conference.

Think of the "good side" as the Big Ten conference and the "evil" side as the Big Twelve. Now think of the rivalry games as those in-conference rivalries or the rare out of conference rivalry ala Universities of Mizzou/Illinois. If I was a Mizzou fan, I would never root for Illinois (even in the national championship) since we aren't even in the same conference (aka Illinois is on the good side but Mizzou is on the evil side). But if I'm a Michigan fan, I'll root for OSU since we're in the same conference (the good side).

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33033#msg33033
« Reply #417 on: March 05, 2010, 02:03:39 am »
I don't see any elements as having rivals, other than death/life and dark/light and water/fire.

Why is time/aether a rivalry? I see no connection between the two other than that they have a good synergy. They aren't the opposite of eachother.

Air/earth is more of a symbiotic relationship versus a rivalry. I mean, the air kinda needs to have the earth and vice versa or else life wouldn't exist. Hey, look! An argument to have life, air, and earth on the same team!

Entropy/Gravity... I see no connection. Why would they be rivals? (Even though I did put them on opposing teams, it could have just as easily been entropy on good too.)
It's based upon the pairings zanzarino made on the metamorphasis page.

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33044#msg33044
« Reply #418 on: March 05, 2010, 02:11:02 am »
Maybe Zanz didn't make them all rivals. Sure, he paired Dark with Light, but that may have no correlation to him pairing Entropy with Gravity. Maybe they just seemed similar.

And even if they ARE rivals, that doesn't mean they have to be on opposing sides. See my analogy with college football.

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Re: War is coming.. https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=3398.msg33054#msg33054
« Reply #419 on: March 05, 2010, 02:16:27 am »
Yeah, there is such thing as a friendly rivalry, where you try to kill the other guy but root for him if he goes ahead of you.
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