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CCYB: Will beat this FG most of the times since he can outheal the damage, will have trouble when he sets up slowly and this FG get's out poison fast.This deck walks the balance between "difficult" and "rewarding." Don't vote for easy decks. Don't vote for auto-quit decks. Vote for Lancelot!
RoL/Hope: Will have more problems then CCYB, not only is the CC not ideal (can be worked around) but the poison might be to much to handle after a while.
Liquid Antimatter: Stands no chance as far as I can tell.
Overall: Any FG grind can lose because of the poison coming out to fast, but the most common FG grind decks will also be able to beat it on regular basis (as they should). Purify will obviously destroy this FG and will be more commonly seen in the popular FG grind decks.
Note that Physalias will not be cremated unless they are lobotomized. That's right, unless the opponent has an early lobotomizer, Lancelot has 22 dead cards in his deck. Also note that the AI will continue to improveThe problem here isn't the lack of Cremating the Physalias -- though that does instantly cripple this deck. The problem with Lancealot is that the AI will happily waste bolt after bolt on enemy creatures, leaving you with only the small and utterly unprotected Physalia to do all of the hard kill-work for you -- and they only have the Mark to power them, so the majority will be sitting around uselessly. Lancealot is -- forgive my arrogant assumption -- garnering votes because people know it will be trivial to beat, and yet it has excellent rewards (3x6 cards = best spins of any FG thus far.)
Eternal Crusader -No matter what you do, he keeps coming! :DNo matter what you do, what you just said sounds completely wrong.
Ahhh it's not my fault you have to think of it that way. >.< Fine, here it is again:Eternal Crusader -No matter what you do, he keeps coming! :DNo matter what you do, what you just said sounds completely wrong.
But which "enemy creatures" are the bolts wasted on? In the most popular FG grinders, there is no massive spam of high-attack creatures early in the game, and so bolts will not be used on creatures.Note that Physalias will not be cremated unless they are lobotomized. That's right, unless the opponent has an early lobotomizer, Lancelot has 22 dead cards in his deck. Also note that the AI will continue to improveThe problem here isn't the lack of Cremating the Physalias -- though that does instantly cripple this deck. The problem with Lancealot is that the AI will happily waste bolt after bolt on enemy creatures, leaving you with only the small and utterly unprotected Physalia to do all of the hard kill-work for you -- and they only have the Mark to power them, so the majority will be sitting around uselessly. Lancealot is -- forgive my arrogant assumption -- garnering votes because people know it will be trivial to beat, and yet it has excellent rewards (3x6 cards = best spins of any FG thus far.)
Lancealot is basically a very clever variation on Farmer Joe that looks dangerous...but isn't.
In many ways, Mimic is in the same boat. 3x6 cards -- with no extras, so it's actually even better odds than Lancealot -- and exactly nothing that it can do to your plans except slowly imitate them and possibly Mutate an unprotected creature. It's basically a fun-to-play biting farm deck.
You know who else has "Speed", "Power", and "Divine Righteousness"?Ahhh it's not my fault you have to think of it that way. >.< Fine, here it is again:Eternal Crusader -No matter what you do, he keeps coming! :DNo matter what you do, what you just said sounds completely wrong.
Eternal Crusader: Speed, Power, Divine Righteousness- He's got it all.
Eternal Crusader -No matter what you do, he keeps coming! :DThank you for the beautiful mental image.
I (hopefully) corrected all of the spelling errors I've made.Spelling errors fixed? Check!
Thanks for the heads-up. :)
Adding Echo to the poll? ...Check!
I (hopefully) corrected all of the spelling errors I've made.Thanks for all your hard work organizing these competitions.
Thanks for the heads-up. :)
Want to see a False God...Not to nitpick, but shouldn't Zeus have at least 1 Thunderbolt? I mean, he's never portrayed with balls of lightning, always bolts. It's like his signature move. Anyway...
... Zeus is the God you should vote for.
And if you answered "no" you should still vote for him. :)
FG deck has not been included in the poll:But I did have deck description. It wasn't exactly 100 words long, but 26 word "poem". Oh well, that deck was maybe too evil anyway.
zse - Didn't post a deck description
Good to be back, Boingo.Want to see a False God...Not to nitpick, but shouldn't Zeus have at least 1 Thunderbolt? I mean, he's never portrayed with balls of lightning, always bolts. It's like his signature move. Anyway...
... Zeus is the God you should vote for.
And if you answered "no" you should still vote for him. :)
....Welcome back, Icybraker! ;)
EchoMaybe not, but you know what? In Greek myth, Echo used to be a beautiful nymph. But then, she got her voice taken away from her such that she could only repeat what others said.
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Can your deck do that? Didn't think so.
Really. The difference between mine and most of these entries, is that my FG actually adapts to what the opponent does because depending on what weapon you play out, the Crusaders would do different things, PLUS adapting to different situations. The two elements of adaptation, Eternal Crusader has them both. Don't diss my deck just cuz I'm new.Actually, I didn't even know who you were :P
Mimic...it's not a bad idea, but we already have Chaos Lord and Destiny, do we need another Fate Egg/Mutation deck? Even with the Mindgates to add "something different", it's mostly going to be like Chaos Lord Jr. seeing as most FG decks carry repeatable permanent control.Essence has a good point there IMO. Well, we all have different opinions right? That's why we have democracy. :)
Yeah, to be honest, that deck is too much CL/Destiny look-a-like that it deserves a first place.Mimic...it's not a bad idea, but we already have Chaos Lord and Destiny, do we need another Fate Egg/Mutation deck? Even with the Mindgates to add "something different", it's mostly going to be like Chaos Lord Jr. seeing as most FG decks carry repeatable permanent control.Essence has a good point there IMO. Well, we all have different opinions right? That's why we have democracy. :)
Even if any of the entries does screw up, if Zanz does take an interest in the winning deck, he'll fix the AI until it is playable. That's for sure. Like some others have said, pick the good deck, then worry about the AI later.Which is exactly my point. ;)
Great! Code inserted, but what format do I have to use to insert the mark? It says it doesn't recognize the mark.I have the same issue and don't understand either.
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Explosions are for the Catapults, Rewind for flying Titans. Rewind photon as soon as possible, only stop to rewind Titan, or if you have too few explosions.I've been told that the deck that gets put into the game (if Zanz even takes an interest) cannot be altered much because the submitted version is how the community wants it, but if you guys put in a little voice...It seems like more and more people are starting to realize that the community voted for decks that the AI couldn't use. You were the first of two people who PM'd me wanting to change their deck. As I've told you already, changing the deck that the community wanted to see in the game is a risky move.
It seems like more and more people are starting to realize that the community voted for decks that the AI couldn't use. You were the first of two people who PM'd me wanting to change their deck. As I've told you already, changing the deck that the community wanted to see in the game is a risky move.Very true! Game balance is the utmost important thing. With the recent arrival of the FG mode in the Trainer, we're starting to realize that certain decks can't be played. That is precisely the reason why some small adjustments need to be made, or several out of the four FG competition will be trashed. Glad there might a faint hope of a chance for adjustments. :D
Perhaps I'll change my opinion after I speak with fellow Competition Organizers about this.
As Essence said:
Game balance > Forum Competition
I strongly encourage Wizardcat and TNG to playtest Hecate and Serket using the new system as well -- literally, not doing it is just potentially wasting Zanz' time, as (if they don't work right) he'll have to modify the decks himself once they're in-game. Isn't it better all around if the deck's creators do that part for him?
So he will be notified to take the time to go over our discussion threads, correct? Thank you, competition organizers. This is the very solution I'm seeking.Yes/no. He will hopefully be made aware of the threads, but we, or SG, will just present the issues to Zanz, since the quickest method would be the best, and reading through a thread isn't as quick as just telling him upfront. Such as, he will hopefully be told that Jezebel has issues of targetting her water towers over quantum at all times. But it all depends on who talks to him, since SG isn't here currently, she currently isn't aware of the issues going on with this. But we shoudl be able to talk to her before she gets a message out to Zanz with the decks.
How about this: why don't we who have tested the decks write up a short blurb describing the problem and how we solved it, and you can just append that to whatever else you give Zanz? That creates minimal work for you (copy/paste), and minimal work for Zanz (as he already has a proposed and playtested solution in hand), while not taking anything away from the voters (because Zanz stills sees the originally proposed deck first) or Zanz (who still as always has final say on what get into the game.)Yes, this is a great idea. With all due respect to competition organizers, but we the deck creators probably has more experience with the deck than you guys, thus allowing us to describe to problem better and make life easier for you guys and Zanz. Win-win situation here. :)
More importantly, we have more experience with our decks than Zanz does, and we're more likely to come up with a solution that keeps the deck in-theme with the nature of the contest and it's original intent than he is.
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Fixed. Now does it suffice?You are making this far too complicated
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