*Author

Offline Bloodshadow

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4030
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 46
  • Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • 吞天纳地,魔渡众生。天下万物,唯我至尊。
  • Awards: Ultimate Profile WinnerOpposites Attract
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20392#msg20392
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2010, 03:48:32 am »
The problem is that I already posted this story once. That means I cannot post it again, according to the rules.

Just give me an answer, yes or no. If no mod will edit in the story for me, then I'll delete my unfinished entry and start think a story for the next contest. I'm not whining.
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

YoYoBro

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20416#msg20416
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2010, 06:41:15 am »
I don't think it's unfair. I just need SG's authorisazion to edit it.

Offline Bloodshadow

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4030
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 46
  • Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • 吞天纳地,魔渡众生。天下万物,唯我至尊。
  • Awards: Ultimate Profile WinnerOpposites Attract
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20425#msg20425
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2010, 06:52:04 am »
I don't think it's unfair. I just need SG's authorisazion to edit it.
Does this mean yes? If so, then thanks a lot, man!

Personally, I think my own story is the best "world creation" idea, but it is not the most interesting story. Obviously Silkenfist's story is the best one.
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

Scaredgirl

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20447#msg20447
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2010, 09:47:36 am »
I don't think it's unfair. I just need SG's authorisazion to edit it.
I don't know if the forums were down or not but I don't think Bloodshadow would lie about something like that. At least I hope he wouldn't. And in that case we of course have to edit his story.

I know the forums weren't down 4 hours before the competition until the moment the competition ended because I was here the whole time. What happened with the forums about 12-4 hours before the competition ended I have no idea because I was sleeping at the time.

If the forums were in fact down, it had nothing to do with me installing plugins (that never takes the forums down) but something to do with our hosting provider. No hosting provider out there can guarantee a 100% uptime and there will be errors from time to time although they usually last for only a couple of seconds or few minutes. Longer downtimes (like what we had a 1-2 weeks ago) are generally quite rare.

This is just a harmless competition and I doubt any of the other contestants have a problem with Bloodshadow editing his story, especially if he was unable to do it because of technical difficulties. But you are the Event Organizer so it's ultimately your call.

In the future I suggest everyone to submit their story well beforehand if possible in order to avoid this kind of thing.

YoYoBro

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20479#msg20479
« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2010, 01:34:48 pm »
I'm editing it right now.

YoYoBro

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20489#msg20489
« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2010, 02:43:45 pm »
Done. Now blood's story is complete and I corrected some minor format issues.

Kurohami

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20532#msg20532
« Reply #18 on: January 27, 2010, 05:09:41 pm »
Well done, bloodshadow, your story is actually quite interesting too.

Silkenfist

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20693#msg20693
« Reply #19 on: January 27, 2010, 10:44:05 pm »
Concerning my story: I am glad that it is well-received. Of course. I gain a lot from using significantly more space than most other stories. In the future, we should probably define how many words "Short Story" constitutes. Depending on definition and source, it could be anywhere between 500 and 5000.


But for now, let's just look at the competition for this contest:

Slovenc555: Sorry, but I am not convinced. You had your story finished first and you had all the time to review it and make improvements. I am far from being a grammar nazi (my own grammar is horrible enough to prevent that) but if I have to read most sentences twice to get the meaning, it is too much. More importantly, a lot of potential is wasted with the role of the original thirteenth element. Given its significance in the development of the world, its deeds (and death) are not used nearly enough in the story.

Lanidrak: I like the whole "happy balanced world is becoming hostile and desolate" motive, but I think you should have spent more time to develop the story. For example, the "past religion" on which the False Gods are based remain ominous throughout and I do not know from where Entropy has returned. There is potential but the story needs more content to convey a stringent image.

Icybraker: Niice. You don't write stories very often, do you? It is quite interesting to see how the quality of your story improves as you go along. Morte is introduced nicely and the  feeling of fear and desperation is well-conveyed in the description of your poor protagonist. Oh, and a bitter end is always a plus with me. That said... I think that you didn't double-check your story well enough after finishing it. For example, the "thousand gasps" become "two hundred archangels" who somehow still constitute a "scout group". Your story is neigh perfect after you had established the setting, but this establishing process definitely needs work.

Daxx: Great story and about as good as it can get with the short format you chose. Strong introduction, excellent use of language and I especially like your choice of calling the battling elements "Childs". My only complain is, that you could have allowed yourself a bit more space to build up tension a bit further.

Cynxos: The story itself is very impressive. You take your time with vague-but-threatening exposition, building up suspense towards an inevitable climax. The exposition and description of the scene flows well with this process of building up a certain punchline and preparing to deliver it with ruthless efficiency. The only problem is - I am not impressed by that punchline. Seism is a pain to go up against but the deck really doesn't match the person in your description IMO.

Essence: I like the general setting, the theme, the protagonists and the solution. The whole "beseech the elusive mystical creature"-deal is always nice and working the Nymphs into it works well. There is some room for improvement, though. More dialogue between the protagonists to build up pressure would have been nice and I like it more, when the plan (what to do with the tears) is worked into the midth of the story to be able to finish the story quickly after the solution to the critical element is found.

Kurohami: There is a lot of potential in the story, but you really should have run a better double-checking process at the end. There are names (Greeph?) that appear out of the blue and it is never quiet clear whether the Graviton village in the beginning is connected to the Graviton army in the later part of the story in any way.

Lord_Midnight: I like the archeologist setting. It can solve a lot of problems we get from the fact that there are few humanoid cards in elements. Thinking of marks as powerful artifacts opens up story ideas, I might try myself sooner or later. Still, there are some elements in the story, I am not entirely satisfied with. I would have liked a stronger focus on the characters instead of their precise actions to reach the place. Also, I don't really like the punchline - there is not much wisdom in the question, it can be simply answered with "cartography changes a lot over a few millennia". The strong setup for the one deadpan question could have been executed way better.

Bloodshadow: A marvellous work with excellent language, good ideas and an irresistible logic behind it. I have always wondered, why light was always associated with good, while darkness should harbor evil but your explanation makes a lot of sense, surprisingly. To the work itself, I can only deliver praise. It is highly unfortunate that it will not be the story to receive my vote, though.

Why not? Let me do the segue to my choice for Best Story: The obvious problem is, that there is a lot of variance in the entries in terms of language, themes, subject, etc. My criterion for best story is based on the question who made the best story which means to me the best setting, the best course of action and the best execution in a conclusion of the story. Which means that my vote goes to a story that certainly has (minor) flaws in the execution but surpasses the others in creating a course of action to play with the suspense of the story, creating several dramaturgical peaks in short time: My choice for this contest is Icybraker.

Which leaves me to address as a final part: Bloodshadow's world creation story certainly is the work of highest quality in here and I think it has the potential to be added to the "official" Elements material. If the current state of the homepage/wiki allows, it could make a nice addition as the flavor of Elements in a nutshell.

Daxx

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20713#msg20713
« Reply #20 on: January 27, 2010, 11:14:25 pm »
Interesting evaluation; I think for the most part I agree with what you've written. I see you're as good at critique as you are at writing fiction. :)

On another note: Bloodshadow, isn't your entry just a rehash of your old work on an "elements story"? I guess there's no requirement to be original, but I was just wondering.

Kurohami

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20814#msg20814
« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2010, 01:42:15 am »
Quote
Kurohami: There is a lot of potential in the story, but you really should have run a better double-checking process at the end. There are names (Greeph?) that appear out of the blue and it is never quiet clear whether the Graviton village in the beginning is connected to the Graviton army in the later part of the story in any way.
Sorry for being a noob, but what does "appear out of the blue" mean? And for the Graviton army's attack, it has no direct connection with the village in the beginning, but as a former outpost, the troops can come from there. I just didn't see much significance to make the connection. Anyway, thanks for the critique, I was kind of mad that no one is commenting on my story, as though it doesn't exist at all. I'm a newbie writer, so there's not much in me to compete with real writers like you guys. It was fun though. :)

icybraker

  • Guest
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20817#msg20817
« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2010, 01:46:29 am »
"Icybraker: Niice. You don't write stories very often, do you? It is quite interesting to see how the quality of your story improves as you go along. Morte is introduced nicely and the  feeling of fear and desperation is well-conveyed in the description of your poor protagonist. Oh, and a bitter end is always a plus with me. That said... I think that you didn't double-check your story well enough after finishing it. For example, the "thousand gasps" become "two hundred archangels" who somehow still constitute a "scout group". Your story is neigh perfect after you had established the setting, but this establishing process definitely needs work."

I don't write stories, PERIOD. :D This was one of my first attempts.
The "thousand gasps" is pretty clearly hyperbole; two hundred can be a scout group, easy. Scout groups in large armies are actually very often even larger.
Yeah, it's strange because I thought my story was actually better at the beginning, starting to rush near the end because I really didn't want to make it super huge. But, for some reason, you say the exact opposite. :P No matter.

Thanks for your comments. Your story is sorta epic.

Offline Bloodshadow

  • Legendary Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4030
  • Country: ca
  • Reputation Power: 46
  • Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.Bloodshadow is towering like an Amethyst Dragon over their peers.
  • 吞天纳地,魔渡众生。天下万物,唯我至尊。
  • Awards: Ultimate Profile WinnerOpposites Attract
Re: Vote For Winner: Short Story Competition https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2498.msg20856#msg20856
« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2010, 04:07:44 am »
Quote
Bloodshadow: A marvellous work with excellent language, good ideas and an irresistible logic behind it. I have always wondered, why light was always associated with good, while darkness should harbor evil but your explanation makes a lot of sense, surprisingly. To the work itself, I can only deliver praise. It is highly unfortunate that it will not be the story to receive my vote, though.

------

Which leaves me to address as a final part: Bloodshadow's world creation story certainly is the work of highest quality in here and I think it has the potential to be added to the "official" Elements material. If the current state of the homepage/wiki allows, it could make a nice addition as the flavor of Elements in a nutshell.
Wow, thanks a lot! I didn't even expect my own work to be that good! To tell the truth, I wrote that story 11:00 PM at night while procrastinating (I was supposed to be doing my homework). I actually thought that my story was incomplete, because I was a bit too tired to add more details to my story. Some details I wanted to add are the reason why the higher beings (One, Primus/Secundus/Tertius, the Elements) fade away, more details on how elementals became False Gods, more detail on the elementals' society, etc... I certainly did not expect my work to be seen as something this good. I even thought my own wording and language were plain and repetitive (I'm Chinese so my vocabulary is still not as good as native speakers)...

Now I want to start my own competing story for the main Elements lore. Personally I don't really like the current one on the wiki right now.
To be or not to be, I can do both at once. Go learn quantum mechanics, n00b.

 

blarg: