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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19630#msg19630
« Reply #24 on: January 24, 2010, 09:54:46 pm »
To be honest, I agree with you on Loki, and I would normally choose him but; the fact that I must swap a perma with the opponents, kind of intimidated me.
You gotta think outside of the box a little. The ability to swap a skeleton with a dragon, or a pillar with a Pulverizer, is pretty powerful. After all, what is your opponent going to do with an Amethyst Tower? Entropy already has synergy with Darkness (Lycanthropy), so this fits and expands an already present niche in Elements. The ability cost is exactly the element it needs to be. Overall it is a great card.

Yes, Crusader needs a weapon in play to become more powerful, but that is the tradeoff for the potential power it can have. You could even use a Long Sword just for the ability to give it +5/+2. Sure, there will be times where it will be "just a creature", but the situational aspect of Crusader is much less than the situational nature of, say, Purify.

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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19633#msg19633
« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2010, 09:59:32 pm »
To be honest, I agree with you on Loki, and I would normally choose him but; the fact that I must swap a perma with the opponents, kind of intimidated me.
You gotta think outside of the box a little. The ability to swap a skeleton with a dragon, or a pillar with a Pulverizer, is pretty powerful. After all, what is your opponent going to do with an Amethyst Tower? Entropy already has synergy with Darkness (Lycanthropy), so this fits and expands an already present niche in Elements. The ability cost is exactly the element it needs to be. Overall it is a great card.

Yes, Crusader needs a weapon in play to become more powerful, but that is the tradeoff for the potential power it can have. You could even use a Long Sword just for the ability to give it +5/+2. Sure, there will be times where it will be "just a creature", but the situational aspect of Crusader is much less than the situational nature of, say, Purify.
Actually I was thinking it would have been a bit more categorized as in; you could only switch weapons with weapons, shields with shields and etc etc.
Creatures, I obviously understood the entire " take a skeleton and give me a pumped up water spirit".
Seemed like I did think differently. And seriously, if that's what his ability would in the end really do, then hell yes.

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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19636#msg19636
« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2010, 10:03:33 pm »
I actually didn't choose Loki because I thought it was OP. I mean, it's basically a creature with steal AND an instant kill spell all rolled into one. Sure, you need some skeletons or something as an added cost for the instant kill, and you need a pillar for the steal effect, but other than that, it's only 2 dark. In fact, the instant kill aspect is more like "Steal a creature!" versus just "kill that creature!"

Seems OP to me :).

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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19638#msg19638
« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2010, 10:05:22 pm »
I still can't see several of the images.

Dark Matter, Epidemic, Silence, Main Gauche, INevitable, Good News, Wolf, Dryad, Static Electricity, Rampage, School of Piranha, Crusader, and Quantum Scales...none of those show up as even having an image posted under them.
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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19645#msg19645
« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2010, 10:13:03 pm »
I actually didn't choose Loki because I thought it was OP. I mean, it's basically a creature with steal AND an instant kill spell all rolled into one. Sure, you need some skeletons or something as an added cost for the instant kill, and you need a pillar for the steal effect, but other than that, it's only 2 dark.

Seems OP to me :).
I should have clarified the rules a bit.

We are not supposed to take into consideration how overpowered a card is. If I said something like that earlier, just ignore it.

This is not about balancing the game, we are here to brainstorm and have new ideas. ALL cards can be balanced with changing costs, etc. There's no point in shooting down a good idea only because you think it's overpowered.

In my earlier post I said I think Crusader is overpowered. That was just me thinking out loud because I think the card is really OP considering how cheap it is to play. That however had nothing to do with my choice and I think the idea behind the card is great.

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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19649#msg19649
« Reply #29 on: January 24, 2010, 10:19:33 pm »
Oh. Well then.

If some restrictions were put on it, for instance:
"Target creature will swap with a weaker creature on the opponent's board, and target permanent will swap with a cheaper permanent on the opponent's board"
This would refer to attack power and casting cost, respectively.

With those restrictions, I could see that card being great :). But I'm not changing my vote, since I still like Inevitable and Static Field more. As to Crusader, since I helped, I'm staying with it.

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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19652#msg19652
« Reply #30 on: January 24, 2010, 10:25:21 pm »
O.o Someone else voted for Main Gauche?
Well, thanks, whoever you are.

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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19653#msg19653
« Reply #31 on: January 24, 2010, 10:27:13 pm »
Darn that crusader, I thought I had a better chance than that.  :( Oh well, at least I'm in third right now.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19660#msg19660
« Reply #32 on: January 24, 2010, 10:53:46 pm »
I'm assumimg Crusader would have a Lobby type effect builtin so it can only have Endow or the weapon's ability?

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19662#msg19662
« Reply #33 on: January 24, 2010, 10:59:24 pm »
Endow is intended to function the same way that Lycanthropy does, and is worded similarly. It can be used only once.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19665#msg19665
« Reply #34 on: January 24, 2010, 11:08:46 pm »
Looks like J's idea is getting more and more popular :) gz Jmizzle, as always :)

I was too busy to submit my "ion cannon" card, which was the "good one" (epidemic was just a thought) but, well, it will be for the next card idea event :)

I don't ask anyone to vote my card. Just think what it could mean in a deck build to get quick control of the table. You use a freeze, then spread it amongst your enemies. Or an adrenaline, you can instantly apply it to 3 random creatures by playing a single card. And so on for all statuses (but immortal, cuz immortal creatures are untargetable). Then decide what to do :)

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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg19668#msg19668
« Reply #35 on: January 24, 2010, 11:17:56 pm »
Woah there buddy boy. Are you saying that if I waste a gravity quantum on that card, using my Otuygh, it won't work?
Thats a bit too oped in my opinion.
Well, the Kitsune would be removed from the field, but wouldn't be destroyed (as it returns to your deck).  And it's not a copy of a strong creature like Twin Universe, but it LOOKS like one at first glance.  It's a minor threat that disguises itself as a stronger one.

Not that it matters, it seems no one likes it enough to vote for it.  And I thought I had something with this too...
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