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Re: Poll: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20188#msg20188
« Reply #108 on: January 26, 2010, 05:02:26 pm »
2) can you vote for your own? :P Not that I will; I already voted. But can you?
yes i can vote my own. you should really get that fixed. i voted for dark matter, thinking has a simmilar name as anti matter, so i voted. than i realised it was of my own creating... lame if you ask me.
Making the poll so that you cannot vote your own idea is a much longer and complex process than you would think.

I suggest everyone just uses one vote to vote their own creation, then nobody gets an advantage. It's not "lame" if everyone gets that +1.

One other easy solution is to make votes visible so that you can see what everyone voted. But this not an optimal solution because some people want to keep their votes a secret, and they should have that right.

Oh, and if you voted your own creation "by mistake", you can always change you vote. :) You can change it as many times as you like until the voting closes.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20190#msg20190
« Reply #109 on: January 26, 2010, 05:07:30 pm »
lol I voted for my own and see no problem with it. The poll is good as it is, 3 votes is great.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20193#msg20193
« Reply #110 on: January 26, 2010, 05:50:12 pm »
lol I voted for my own and see no problem with it. The poll is good as it is, 3 votes is great.
Yes, when we agree that everyone votes their own creation, votes will balance each other out.

If we agreed that you cannot vote your own idea, some people would still vote their own idea and get an unfair advantage.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20211#msg20211
« Reply #111 on: January 26, 2010, 07:22:15 pm »
I agree with SG. I think pretty much everyone voted themselves. In the next events I'll organise, I think I'll pose more difficult challenges (maybe some restrictions on the art type, for example) this much entries, so that auto-voting is less important, if at all.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20216#msg20216
« Reply #112 on: January 26, 2010, 07:29:17 pm »
I agree with SG. I think pretty much everyone voted themselves. In the next events I'll organise, I think I'll pose more difficult challenges (maybe some restrictions on the art type, for example) this much entries, so that auto-voting is less important, if at all.
You cannot have any restrictions in an idea competition. :) The more simple the rules are, the better.

The current voting system works perfectly well and there is no need to change it. People who have a problem with it, probably just don't understand why self-voting is not a problem. When everyone gets that +1, it's like nothing happened. And if nothing happened, where is the problem?

People who submitted their ideas, get one less vote but that's not a big deal because they are biased anyways. Most of them won't vote for their biggest competition even if they think the idea is good. :)

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20217#msg20217
« Reply #113 on: January 26, 2010, 07:31:49 pm »
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The problem with this competition is that the idea is neutered down to what you see on the card.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20220#msg20220
« Reply #114 on: January 26, 2010, 07:40:11 pm »
SG, I mean restrictions like:

"Draw the best art which represents dragons"

Ofc this is just a stupid example.. that way we don't have 800 entries, 75% of which get 1-2 votes.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20223#msg20223
« Reply #115 on: January 26, 2010, 07:54:05 pm »
I'd just like to say, no offense to the creator, that I'm appalled that people are voting for a card as extraordinarily overpowered as Loki.

Can't you see the absurdity in playing a Darkness/Entropy deck that can give it's opponents a big ol' Antimattered Vampiric Dark Dragon in exchange for their innocent little 8/13 Otyugh? 

The card is seriously hideously nasty, especially with decent combat stats on top of that utterly game-dominating ability. 

Think about it.  You could seriously give your 0/1 Momentumed Fate Egg mutants to Miracle and get his 18/18 Golden Dragon in return.  Or give a Sundial to Rainbow in exchange for an Hourglass.  Or give an Unstable Gas to Seism in exchange for a Titanium Shield. 

Loki is the Mayor of Crazytown.
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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20230#msg20230
« Reply #116 on: January 26, 2010, 08:10:39 pm »
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The problem with this competition is that the idea is neutered down to what you see on the card.
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Well, there are two sides to this.

On one hand I agree completely. This competition was only about the IDEA, and everyone knows jmizzle got tons of extra votes because of that very cool picture by Jason.

On the other hand jmizzle spent some time to make the idea look perfect. He used the template, made both non-upgraded and upgraded versions, and inserted a very nice picture. It's called marketing and it works, even if it's not "fair".

All other contestants could have done the same thing but they didn't. I'm sure now everyone knows what the deal is, and when we have the next competition, all ideas will look more like the one jmizzle7 submitted.


SG, I mean restrictions like:

"Draw the best art which represents dragons"

Ofc this is just a stupid example.. that way we don't have 800 entries, 75% of which get 1-2 votes.
Oh, ok. :)


I'd just like to say, no offense to the creator, that I'm appalled that people are voting for a card as extraordinarily overpowered as Loki.
Having ideas and balancing the game are two different things. Idea guy has the ideas and game designer (Zanz) makes it balanced. This competition was about the idea.

It's very easy to balance cards in Elements because if everything else fails, you can always simply up the cost.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20283#msg20283
« Reply #117 on: January 26, 2010, 10:56:30 pm »
Holy cows... good job, guys. I come back to the forums after a couple of hours and this thread literally doubled in size. Nice.

And I see Crusader is still at the top. :P

Main Gauche has 9 - not completely out of the running, but it's safe to say that it's not going to win any prize. Still - this is a good idea, no? It blocks weapons, and only weapons, dealing 1 damage per turn. It cannot block flying weapons or "Crusaders" :P

And Loki is SUPPOSED to be the mayor of Crazytown. He's Loki. :P

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20291#msg20291
« Reply #118 on: January 26, 2010, 11:13:28 pm »
Well, I certainly hope that people voted for my card idea because of what it is, not because it looks cool (even though that can help, as SG suggested). Of course I'm not going to submit an idea that looks like crap, but let's be honest with ourselves here... Why is my idea the only one that people complained about with regard to copyright, when there is a frame from the Lion King with no credits attached?? The idea is the centerpiece for voting, not the art. Art is just the aesthetic that brings an idea together, and I spent time and energy on my card to make it look as professional as possible. That's just how I do things.

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On a brighter note, I really like a lot of the ideas in this competition. Nearly all of them would be useful, but some just seem like they "fit" better in the game.

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Re: Vote for Winner: Best Card Idea https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=2416.msg20295#msg20295
« Reply #119 on: January 26, 2010, 11:19:00 pm »
I voted Dryad. It's the best one. Mass boost sounds great, especially for Life. And the art is great there too.

 

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