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Title: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on March 31, 2012, 10:06:25 pm
:underworldbig The Relics of Other   :underworldbig
Original Idea by Kamietsu |  Art from ETG, Modified by Zblader
"Ah sir? Our customers seem to be having a hard time choosing between two products."
"Ah, no matter. Let the tiebreaker polls commence! "


(http://imageplay.net/img/tya22259276/ANNC.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/tya22259275/SoCE.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/tya22259277/DiscordPowerless.png)

Tiebreaker Poll : Vote for your favorite Other Rare!
When voting, be sure to consider the following:
1) Is the card balanced?
2) Does the card have a good theme?
3) Does the card make a good rare?

If you wish to inspect a particular card further, customer, click on its image.

(http://i.imgur.com/kQKhj.png http://www.publicdomainpictures.net/view-image.php?image=6983&picture=woven-background-grey-amp-black&large=1)(http://i.imgur.com/VpIpd.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38389.0.html)

(http://i.imgur.com/wYjlT.png)(http://i.imgur.com/Ef1q1.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38333.0.html)




"Sir, I have collected the submissions. Can we let the voting begin?"
"Yes, yes! Let the public judge the quality of our newest products! "


(http://i.imgur.com/DDLmu.png) (http://i.imgur.com/A0iG7.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38309.0.html)

(http://i.imgur.com/7tmIi.png)(http://i.imgur.com/VQZH4.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38331.0.html)

(http://i.imgur.com/SFTwO.png)(http://i.imgur.com/y8FIX.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38385.0.html)

(http://i.imgur.com/xD6r4.png)(http://i.imgur.com/7e0bi.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38053.0.html)

(http://i.imgur.com/F8mT3.png)(http://i.imgur.com/BCsAE.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38399.0.html)



storyteller's submission, Mercury Shard (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,38407.0.html), lacked a proper card border.



Voting Phase II:
Time's up. The Head Merchant wishes you best of luck.



"Head Merchant, the Elemental armies appear to be mobilizing. Rumor has it the Masters are selecting 5 champions to lead their armies once more...."
"Heh heh heh, that explains our recent contract with the Underworld. I'll have to supply our bazaars with some new rares from the Other Realm. "
"Very well, sir. Let us seek out the finest smiths, the most clever alchemists, and the most wily summoners of the realms, in that case. Their objective will be: "


(http://imageplay.net/img/tya22259276/ANNC.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/tya22259275/SoCE.png)(http://imageplay.net/img/tya22259277/DiscordPowerless.png)

Create a Rare card that has no Element affinity. (Or as those smiths call it, "Other".)[/center]


CONTRACT SPECIFICS (RULES):

  • The Head Merchant encourages originality from your thriving minds, so submissions cannot be cards that have already been created on the forum. They must be newly created for this competition.
  • Only 1 submission per person. If more than 1 submission is made by a user, only the 1st submission will be reviewed.
  • Submitted Rare cards cannot be of any Element or PseudoElement, as they are currently not in demand. They must be Other cards.
  • Cards can be of any type(Creature, Spell, Permenent).
  • Cards should be generally be balanced. Buyers do not appreciate overpowered or underpowered cards as they show bad taste.
  • All submissions must use the Card Submission Format show below.
  • All submissions must be posted in the Competition Submission Board (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,232.0.html).
  • Please use http://xenocidius.allalla.com/cardimagebuilder/index.html to make a card image with forum-acceptable card art.

Card Format:
Code: [Select]
[table][tr][td][center][img]
http://***InternetAddressOfCardImage.jpg***
[/img][/center][/td][td][center][img]
http://***InternetAddressOfUpgradedCardImage.jpg***
[/img][/center][/td][/tr][tr][td][table][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299]NAME: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert name***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] ELEMENT: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert element***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] COST: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert cost***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] TYPE: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert type***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] ATK|HP: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert att|hp***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] TEXT: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert card text***
[/td][/tr][/table][/td]

[td][table][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] NAME: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert name (upgraded)***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] ELEMENT: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert element (upgraded)***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] COST: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert cost (upgraded)***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] TYPE: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert type (upgraded)***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] ATK|HP: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert att|hp (upgraded)***
[/td][/tr][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] TEXT: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert card text (upgraded)***
[/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table]

[table][tr][td][table][tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] ART: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert artist name***
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] IDEA: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert card maker name***
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] NOTES: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert additional information***
[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][right][b][size=8pt][color=#C9C299] SERIES: [/color][/size][/b][/right][/td][td]
***Insert series name and link to series page (if any)***
[/td][/tr][/table][/td][/tr][/table]

PHASES:
The competition will be split into two phases : A Design Phase, where cards are created and submitted in the Card Idea Submission Thread (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/board,232.0.html), and a Voting Phase, where designers vote on all submissions.

Design Phase:
It's time to collect the submissions.... (Polls will be up soon!) Good luck!

Voting Phase:
Time's up. The Head Merchant wishes you best of luck.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on April 13, 2012, 01:01:31 am
There were some odd shenanigans with the timer suddenly skipping ahead about 3 days after the forum transfer occured. As a result, the competition has been extended 3 days.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Kuroaitou on April 13, 2012, 01:02:50 am
Damn shenanigans.

That said, phew; I might have time enter this competition after all. XD
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 13, 2012, 05:15:02 am
And here I thought I'd be the lone participant.  Bring on the competition.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Pineapple on April 14, 2012, 06:41:18 am
So we don't have to post a link to our thread anywhere?
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on April 14, 2012, 07:50:58 pm
So we don't have to post a link to our thread anywhere?
Well, not for this one. It'll be back in future competitions though.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on April 16, 2012, 10:04:13 pm
Voting for the Relics of Other has begun!

When voting, be sure to consider the following:
1) Is the card balanced?
2) Does the card have a good theme?
3) Does the card make a good rare?

Poll lasts for 7 days. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: daccoo on April 16, 2012, 10:15:58 pm
Simply voted for 5. But that weapon looks usefful too!.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Jenkar on April 16, 2012, 10:19:03 pm
Simply voted for 5. But that weapon looks usefful too!.
5 is probably my most hated, lulz. Care to devellop?
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: daccoo on April 16, 2012, 10:23:57 pm
Simply voted for 5. But that weapon looks usefful too!.
5 is probably my most hated, lulz. Care to devellop?

Mah it can do wonders with proper setup .I would love to see it in game .
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Jenkar on April 16, 2012, 10:26:39 pm
That's exactly my problem with it, :P It is too poweerful, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: daccoo on April 16, 2012, 10:28:37 pm
That's exactly my problem with it, :P It is too poweerful, in my opinion.

We can test that if it comes out in game till then i will stay silent .
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: OldTrees on April 16, 2012, 10:40:39 pm
#s 2, 3 and 6, being quanta sources, categorically should not be rares.
# 4 should not be a rare because the second copy is a dead card even if animated. Card disadvantage abilities cannot be used multiple times per turn without ridiculous costs
# 1 should not be a rare because it would be too significant to the metagame. No major pvp tool or expansion card should be deprived from the new players. That would artificially limit the metagame diversity. It would be unfair to boot.
# 5 could be a rare. However I am not impressed by the mechanics (+1|+1 per creature but with an overcomplicated implementation) or the theme (let's make a non elemental version of a creature that inherently is elemental).
# 7 is a generic version of common cards. Generic is the opposite theme from rare.

Edited for card #7
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Jenkar on April 16, 2012, 10:50:38 pm
# 4 should not be a rare because the second copy is a dead card even if animated. Card disadvantage abilities cannot be used multiple times per turn without ridiculous costs
Hum, i do not understand ths one :o
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: OldTrees on April 16, 2012, 11:00:35 pm
@Jenkar
# 4 should not be a rare because the second copy is a dead card even if animated. Card disadvantage abilities cannot be used multiple times per turn without ridiculous costs
Hum, i do not understand ths one :o
Rare cards should be useful at any quantity acquired. 0-6. You do not want a player to be disappointed in getting their 2nd copy of a rare card (or 3rd, ...)
#4 takes a creature in the hand and turns it into 1 turn of damage. This is optimal provided the number of creatures drawn per turn => the number of this ability triggered per turn. The number of creatures drawn per turn can only reliable exceed 1 if Hourglass is used. Hourglass supports Stall decks. Turning creatures into 1 turn bolts supports Rush decks. To make use of 2 copies of #4 the deck would need to be a Rush - Stall deck using Time. This is too restrictive a niche especially since the hourglass stall and sacrificial (spark like) rush do not combine well.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: furballdn on April 16, 2012, 11:05:58 pm
Question: Why is not mine on here?
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on April 16, 2012, 11:11:31 pm
Question: Why is not mine on here?
My bad. Card #7 added, poll reset.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: darkrobe on April 18, 2012, 04:28:28 am
I should probably post to keep track of this.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: pisul on April 19, 2012, 11:55:46 pm
Very interresting cards, but i think nymph would be too strong
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Pineapple on April 20, 2012, 12:27:12 pm
# 1 should not be a rare because it would be too significant to the metagame. No major pvp tool or expansion card should be deprived from the new players. That would artificially limit the metagame diversity. It would be unfair to boot.
TIL you get down-voted for being too original. Plus, the card is rather underpowered (mildly situational since it requires combos with at least one other card for inclusion in all reasonable decks), like SoR and Pharaoh are. Since this card is underpowered, it barely affects the metagame, and thus makes a good rare, being fun and unique but not overpowered.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: OldTrees on April 20, 2012, 05:36:42 pm
# 1 should not be a rare because it would be too significant to the metagame. No major pvp tool or expansion card should be deprived from the new players. That would artificially limit the metagame diversity. It would be unfair to boot.
TIL you get down-voted for being too original. Plus, the card is rather underpowered (mildly situational since it requires combos with at least one other card for inclusion in all reasonable decks), like SoR and Pharaoh are. Since this card is underpowered, it barely affects the metagame, and thus makes a good rare, being fun and unique but not overpowered.
I did not down vote you. I criticized you for harming your original card by having it be rare. The original part is good. In fact the original part is so good that it cannot qualify as a rare card without being unfair to new players. Is it underpowered? A bit. Will it remain underpowered as you continue to refine and improve it? No. (If you desire to make it remain intentionally UP then I would have more criticism) You compared it with Pharaoh. I think a more apt comparison of the magnitude of innovation would be Crusader.

Summary: It is fun, unique and not overpowered. It can be used individually or in multiples. (So far it could be made a rare without harming the card.) However the best part of the card is its innovated new direction. This characteristic is more valuable when it is not a rare. Hence this card should not be a rare.

AKA I complemented your card, commended your originality and criticized your submitting that card to the rules of this competition.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: furballdn on April 23, 2012, 11:05:16 pm
Tie between mine and darkrobe's! What do?
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: darkrobe on April 24, 2012, 12:30:21 am
What to do indeed.  ;D Yay for tie-ing for first!
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on April 24, 2012, 01:19:49 am
We have a tie, so a 5-day tiebreaker poll has been started! Vote for the card you think makes the best Other Rare!
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 24, 2012, 01:41:27 am
Neither actually has that Rare feel, so I'm going to disregard that...
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Arum on April 24, 2012, 04:27:41 am
No love for Prism? Aww.
Oh well. Voting for furball's.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: furballdn on April 28, 2012, 11:03:19 pm
Voting phase is done. Who won?  ?_?
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on April 28, 2012, 11:44:45 pm
Voting phase is done. Who won?  ?_?
Poll and timer usually get out of sync. It should run for another 5 hours.
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: furballdn on April 28, 2012, 11:58:02 pm
Got me anxiously refreshing and checking the page for nothing!
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: ZephyrPhantom on April 29, 2012, 03:11:33 am
Congratulations to :rainbow furballdn :rainbow for winning The Relics of Other with his entry,  :underworld Quantum blast :underworld !

Enjoy your award icon!
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: Drake_XIV on April 29, 2012, 03:13:21 am
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: furballdn on April 29, 2012, 04:07:47 am
Woo! My first icon! Nice! Good job to darkrobe as well! Brilliant idea and a worthy opponent!
Title: Re: Competition : The Relics of Other
Post by: darkrobe on April 29, 2012, 04:24:12 am
haha. it seems to be a habit of mine to lose by 1 vote. Congrats to furballdn! sweet card design.
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