Competition: Battle of the Opposing Elements! (Masters only)

[Scaredgirl]

So it isn't alowwed using pillars of a diffrent type than your element?

Using only cards of your own element (+'other') is pretty self-explanatory.

So shards are acceptable, yes?

They are 'other' so, yes.

[Cisz]

Edit: This one has been answered - pls ignore.

So it isn't alowwed using pillars of a diffrent type than your element?

Using only cards of your own element (+'other') is pretty self-explanatory.

Sorry to be so persistantly asking for clarification, I still don't understand it. If I use aether towers with my anubis, Lanidraks definition (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2315.msg22655#msg22655) allows this as mono, and you endorsed that, right?

You even stated "- you can use any cards in your deck as long as the deck stays mono (Cards cost only 1 type of element to be played)", in the rules for this challenge right?

So I am allowed animate weapon, all kinds of pillars and quantum towers, sparks and photons, shards, and immolation in a mono time deck, correct or not? ???

I'm sorry to be so slow on this one.

[Kamietsu]

So it isn't alowwed using pillars of a diffrent type than your element?

Using only cards of your own element (+'other') is pretty self-explanatory.

Sorry to be so persistantly asking for clarification, I still don't understand it. If I use aether towers with my anubis, Lanidraks definition (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,2315.msg22655#msg22655) allows this as mono, and you endorsed that, right?

You even stated "- you can use any cards in your deck as long as the deck stays mono (Cards cost only 1 type of element to be played)", in the rules for this challenge right?

So I am allowed animate weapon, all kinds of pillars and quantum towers, sparks and photons, shards, and immolation in a mono time deck, correct or not? ???

I'm sorry to be so slow on this one.

I believe this reworking of the mono-deck rule only applies to this competition. I believe we will still be using the rule established in the mono-deck thread when Masters may be challenged.

[Cisz]

Ah, I finally found the post where SG changes the rules, sorry for all the questions:

I've been thinking about what Delreich said earlier on this thread..

We need to change the mono deck rules a bit for this competition. Here are the new rules:

1. You can only use cards from your own element + "Other"
2. You can use any mark

So now the masters are allowed to mass quantum towers.

[Kael Hate]

So I am allowed animate weapon, all kinds of pillars and quantum towers, sparks and photons, shards, and immolation in a mono time deck, correct or not? ???

No, cause you aint a MASTER, (yet)

[Scaredgirl]

I think this competition brought out a serious flaw in Lanidrak's mono-deck definition.

Problem is competitions like this one and cards like Flying Weapon. It's unfair if everyone can use it because it makes Air weaker compared to others. It also enables you to take all kinds of different pillars and zero cost cards so that you might have cards from all 12 elements, yet your deck would be called a mono-deck.

Think about it. Your deck has 12 different colors and it's a mono?!

Um.. no.


How about this:

Mono = cards from 1 element (+ "other")
Duo = cards from 2 elements (+ "other")
Trio = cards from 3 elements (+ "other")
Rainbow = cards from 4 or more elements (+ "other")

..and you can use any mark.

Did we ever even consider this option? Because right now it makes most sense to me.


Positives
+ super easy to understand
+ makes sense
+ makes mono-competitions more balanced
+ mono-player can use all the cards in his element simply by changing marks

Negatives
- some people will whine about single zero cost cards changing their deck definition

[Cisz]

"No, cause you aint a MASTER, (yet)" - Oh, yes, and that one too.

And about deck definition:

-Cards from one element need up to 12 kinds of mana (think fate egg or mutants). Is that mono?

-Decks that use only one kind of mana can use cards from light (photon), air (animate weapon), fire (immolation), time (upped sundial) and so on. Is that mono?

So do I have to limit myself to both mana use and card origin to be mono? And what has this definition to do with how the game is played? Why exclude animate weapon from mono, when clearly every one-mana-kind-only-deck can and will use it? Just to make the typical deck an actual player uses a dual deck by definition?

[Kamietsu]

Sounds fine to me, SG. And yes, that definition was brought up in the Mono-deck thread.

[Scaredgirl]

Sounds fine to me, SG. And yes, that definition was brought up in the Mono-deck thread.

Yeah, I went to see that thread and seems like I suggested this same thing in reply #4. Then I got all sidetracked.

[xdude]

Mkay, great, just 1 question... Do we have to fight BEFORE the timer ends, or after that (the timer being the preparing time)? I thought that after it ends, but shadow complained about me not showing up yet.

P.S.: I do have upped cards, but not upped  LIGHT cards -.- (except miracle and morning glory)

[Scaredgirl]

Mkay, great, just 1 question... Do we have to fight BEFORE the timer ends, or after that (the timer being the preparing time)? I thought that after it ends, but shadow complained about me not showing up yet.

P.S.: I do have upped cards, but not upped  LIGHT cards -.- (except miracle and morning glory)

After the timer goes to zero, I will restart the timer to 7 days during which time you have to finish the first round battles.

[Wisemage]

It does seem to me Aether has an advantage over the other Mono decks.  Not biog advantages, but enough to tilt the in his favor.