Competition: Battle of the Opposing Elements! (Masters only)

[tyranim]

question, is a mark of fire allowed for me?
(if not, it would ruin my deck)

[Bloodshadow]

Darkness is one of the best mono elements, but it doesn't have a chance against Light. Light has hard-hitting dragons and Blessings, and it's faster than Mono-Dark. It has Holy Light that instantly kills even a Black Dragon. It has Miracles that will make me deck out. I've thought about it, and realized that it would be extremely hard for me to win against a Mono-Light.

[tyranim]

gl bloodshadow, and dont worry, if we duel, ill most likely lose...

[Terroking]

Blood, thought about using earth mark denial? Taking 6 pests, 3-4 steals, and 6 drain life to finish him off may work. (Maybe put in a few vampires to counteract any damage he gets onto the table)

[Kamietsu]

I'm satisfied with my Fire versus Water. I think it's an even match if he plays poison. Not to mention Permafrost shield against my dragons will such. I better make sure to care lots of Explosions

[xdude]

Blood, thought about using earth mark denial? Taking 6 pests, 3-4 steals, and 6 drain life to finish him off may work. (Maybe put in a few vampires to counteract any damage he gets onto the table)

*cough* don't give him ideas *cough*
Anyways, you do know that light has mirror shield, dontcha?

[jmizzle7]

Where's YoYoBro? I wanna take him down...

[Terroking]

Oh yeah, no shields vs. gravity... But 6 anti-matters can take out the best of creature damage decks.

[Essence]

Problem is competitions like this one and cards like Flying Weapon. It's unfair if everyone can use it because it makes Air weaker compared to others. It also enables you to take all kinds of different pillars and zero cost cards so that you might have cards from all 12 elements, yet your deck would be called a mono-deck.

This rule should be amended to allow Pillars of other types in.  There's just no way in the frozen depths of Watery Hell that I can effectively use Physalia, Toadfsh, or Trident based on one quanta per turn from a Mark.  That decision utterly cripples my ability to field a poison, denial, or infection-based deck, and I KNOW that other Masters are feeling the same way.   (Furthermore, I certainly can't hope to use both Physalia and Toadfish in the same deck, which I was planning on doing.)

Even my opponent Kamietsu cannot hope to make a decent Lava Golem deck with just a Mark of Earth at his disposal.  Only Aether and Light -- and to a lesser but reasonable extent, Death and Entropy -- are happy to play with just a Mark of off-element-ness.

That's an unfair advantage to those few Masters.  I'm all about not allowing Animate Weapon and other actual cards into mono-decks, but disallowing pillars really hurts some elements a lot more than others.



Amd as for my anti-Fire deck, I think I'll go permanentless to make all of his Explosions useless, and pack 6 Ice Bolts -- Fire creatures are uniquely fragile -- and a few Mind Flayers so that I don't have to waste Ice Bolts on the Fire Spirits and Lava Golems.

Of course, having said that, I can count on a deck built without any Fire Spirits and Lava Golems, which means that my Ice Bolts will be even more effective on his main offense -- the Crimson Dragons.

Which means no Explosions or big creatures of any kind.  Ah-hA!!!  He's going to play a Firebolt/Fahrenheit deck!
I'd better play a quick creature stompy to beat him down before he builds up enough Quanta to kill me!

Umm...Fire has ways of murdering quick creature stompys.

Wait, no!  Tridents!  I have those!  I can deny his Quanta, and his Fahrenheits will be powerless...but he's packing Explosions.    But I said I was coming with no permanents, so he won't.  But....

What if he uses Cremation?!?

/me 's head explodes.

[Scaredgirl]

Essence I understand your concern but the problem is that if we allow people to take pillars from other elements, it's going to look way too much like a duo-deck.

I propose we just try how it plays out. This kind of tournament has never been done and we can speculate things all week but the reality might be something totally different.

I personally don't see any of the elements having a huge disadvantage. I'm 100% sure that any element can beat any other elements with the combination of good deck and good strategy (and a bit of luck).

It's very interesting to see how this plays out.

There's still time to smack talk so use it.

[tyranim]

isnt flying/animate weapon an air card, therefor banned from all decks but air decks in this tourny?
at least, thats what the rules said.

- you can only use cards from your own element (+"other" cards)

other cards, as far as i know, are dagger, short sword, hammer, and quantum pillar. non other.

[Delreich]

That's an unfair advantage to those few Masters.  I'm all about not allowing Animate Weapon and other actual cards into mono-decks, but disallowing pillars really hurts some elements a lot more than others.

And allowing pillars would give you a huge advantage, as you've shown elsewhere.
You can still use quantum pillars.

@unit: yes, animate weapon is an air card. Who's said it isn't?