Competition: Battle of the Opposing Elements! (Masters only)

[icybraker]

Darkness and Fire can field some very powerful mono decks too, and with our new definition of Mono - Deck, Earth can use its Shrieker rush, Air can use Unstable Gas, et cetera. Mono-Aether is good, but the Master of Aether is a huge noob with no upgraded cards and no skill

[Kael Hate]

It does seem to me Aether has an advantage over the other Mono decks.  Not biog advantages, but enough to tilt the in his favor.

Time, Gravity and Entropy (Aether's potential opponents) all have faster methods than Aether if they choose to ignore the Immortal fact and just race. This is the disadvantage of Aether you have to pay for immortality even if you don't need it. Aether is strong against control elements but these opponents don't need to to use that.

[Kael Hate]

Darkness and Fire can field some very powerful mono decks too, and with our new definition of Mono - Deck, Earth can use its Shrieker rush, Air can use Unstable Gas, et cetera. Mono-Aether is good, but the Master of Aether is a huge noob with no upgraded cards and no skill

I can understand that but he should give it a go regardless.

[Bloodshadow]

So, are Quantum Pillars allowed or not?

And xdude's single upgraded Miracle will probably be my downfall. I don't even have a Miracle...

[PuppyChow]

Kael, do you understand the concept of dim shields? Mono time has no way around them without off element cards. As soon as Icy starts chaining them, I'm screwed. :|.

Any mono aethers you beat with a conventional mono time deck (for instance, 6x silurian dragon, 3x fate egg, 4x hourglass, 2x turtle shield, 15x time tower) is simply because the mono aether was poorly made and likely had very few dim shields. I would happily face either of your mono time decks with a mono aether.

[Kael Hate]

Kael, do you understand the concept of dim shields? Mono time has no way around them without off element cards. As soon as Icy starts chaining them, I'm screwed. :|.

Any mono aethers you beat with a conventional mono time deck (for instance, 6x silurian dragon, 3x fate egg, 4x hourglass, 2x turtle shield, 15x time tower) is simply because the mono aether was poorly made and likely had very few dim shields. I would happily face either of your mono time decks with a mono aether.

Yeah I understand Phase Shields. Problem is they have to link them. If they can't or after the 18th turn they are dead. Mono Aether has no acceleration so has to be lucky to draw an endgame condition whereas that is not an issue for you. Pitty the Trainer doesn't allow PVP or I'd offfer to practice with you or any of the other Masters.

PS. I wouldn't play that deck you listed against mono-Aether.

[PuppyChow]

With 6x phase shields, it's VERY easy to link 6 of them together, since each gives you 3 turns to draw another. If you start linking with 16 cards left (even 18) or right before you're about to die, you have a high probability of being able to link them the rest of the game.

That's why mono aether used to be the main god farmer before rainbows grew popular.

Pitty the Trainer doesn't allow PVP or I'd offfer to practice with you or any of the other Masters.

Wait, you don't have these decks ingame? Even unupped? >_<...

PS. I wouldn't play that deck you listed against mono-Aether.

Then what would you play? It would probably be something along those lines, since you were talking about beating them down before they could do anything. You may use different amounts of each card, but I bet that that's the type of deck you would use.

[Kamietsu]

Puppychow, You want an idea that might help you out a lot? I'm not sure if you've thought of it. And I don't want to state it here >.> <.< >.> PM me if you are interested.

[Kael Hate]

Pitty the Trainer doesn't allow PVP or I'd offfer to practice with you or any of the other Masters.

Wait, you don't have these decks ingame? Even unupped? >_<...

Semi-upped yes. Pointless tho if you don't have the cardstock. Also the trainer allows you to bend or alter the deck without loss of score or asset. (I have no time towers anymore sold them off for other ideas.)

[Kael Hate]

Then what would you play? It would probably be something along those lines, since you were talking about beating them down before they could do anything. You may use different amounts of each card, but I bet that that's the type of deck you would use.

PM'd the deck.
If you don't like it Don't use it. Tested against my Excel engine Aether deck it works fine.

[vrt]

Darkness and Fire can field some very powerful mono decks too, and with our new definition of Mono - Deck, Earth can use its Shrieker rush, Air can use Unstable Gas, et cetera. Mono-Aether is good, but the Master of Aether is a huge noob with no upgraded cards and no skill

Air can use unstable gas.. Jolly. Earth gets to use Pulverizer. I know what I'd vote for.

[10 men]

Used them both in PVP and against AI3 and 5 Mono Aethers and had no problems.

Hmm, this does not sound very convincing to me, as AI3/5 and the vast majority of PVP decks are terrible.
That said, I do think that time has a chance against aether, even though aether should still be favored, but only if icy builds his deck correctly. So if he actually is the noob he claims to be, it should be doable, right? On the other hand, it's probably all psychological warfare to distract the opponent.