Competition: Battle of the Opposing Elements! (Masters only)

[icybraker]

Plague + Bonewall + Graveyard, man. No need for huge creatures, just go for a spam deck as well as Poison to damage him, or just deck him out.

[jmizzle7]

Well, Puppy and I are tied at 2-2. We were in game five and I was proceeding to win when I got disconnected from the server (of course the first time I get disconnected during pvp it's in game five against Puppy...) Yes, he still had a chance to win, but now we have to play game five over again. Lame.

[Scaredgirl]

I'm gonna go ahead and say that this competition should not have included 'other' cards. If, as SG has said before, part of this competition is to discover imbalances between elemental matchups. Shard of Gratitude slows the game down so much that some elements can't do what they do best, while other elements are allowed enough turns to set up and do what they do best. If anything, this competition has shown that once again, SoG defines and dominates limited formats.

Yep. I'm seriously considering taking out the Shards for the next competition. My initial plan was to do it in this competition as well but I thought we should just try it first to see if the situation was as bad as it sounds. Clearly it was and something needs to be done about it.

One other change will most likely be random opponents in round one.

[coinich]

On the other hand, now we know about the power of the shards.  Its only a game, and we can always make adjustments for the next time around.  I'll be up and running within an hour or two prepping for my matches.

[Scaredgirl]

On the other hand, now we know about the power of the shards.  Its only a game, and we can always make adjustments for the next time around.  I'll be up and running within an hour or two prepping for my matches.

Problem with cards like SoG is that they hurt the balance between mono-decks because some elements have a lot of offense but no healing. SoG enables them to have both.

[coinich]

On the other hand, now we know about the power of the shards.  Its only a game, and we can always make adjustments for the next time around.  I'll be up and running within an hour or two prepping for my matches.

Problem with cards like SoG is that they hurt the balance between mono-decks because some elements have a lot of offense but no healing. SoG enables them to have both.

I agreed with you when you said it the first time.

[xdude]

[advetisment]  VS  starts in half an hour (13:30 GMT) [/advertismemt]

[coinich]

xdude VS coinich
3 - 0

Good game xdude.

First Match and deck:

(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=death&deck=z652gz452iz652jz252nz652oz252p52sz471071a)

Basically intended as a speed poison deck.  I started with an excellent hand including my Arsenic and a few other Poison cards.  I nearly won this match, but lost to a late dragon.  I had Flesh Recluses, it may have gone the other way.

Second Match and deck:

(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=death&deck=z952g52gz652hz552lz652sz471071a)

I decided to try something else this time, with afla and dragons.  Big mistake.  The high quanta costs hindered me, and I wasn't able to get anything setup before he had 3 RoL out.  Soon after followed some Light Dragons to finish me off; I had barely made a dent.

Third Match and deck:

(http://helltgivre.free.fr/elements/?mark=death&deck=z652gz652jz352lz652oz352sz571071az271b)

I had noticed that the Virus' and Plagues hadn't been used at all during the first match, and that the only thing that would effectively stop a dragon was a Bone Wall.  My thought was if I combined the speed poison element with the Afla rush, I might be able to kill him before he could do much else.  The fact that he got a poor hand and didn't play any RoL only reinforced this idea, though if he'd played an early RoL it might've been different.  I was sitting with a Skull Shield and an Afla ready to pounce.  My Flesh Spiders were knocking holes in his HP, even with the shards he used, and the little poison I had applied was working.  He played a Light Dragon, but I double afla'd it and waited, playing more Flesh Spiders and hoping for my powerful Arsenic to wear him down after all the healing he had done.  His dragon died quickly, but it was replaced by another before I could clog up his field.  This with a few RoL made it a race, but when a second and third dragon came out plus a Miracle, with no more on my side, things went downhill from there.  He won with something like 150+hp.

Conclusions: Shards are strong, and if I had any, it might've tipped the balance at least once.  Speed is better than power and that my Bone Dragons were really a drag.  His Holy Flashes weren't particularly dangerous; I had no major creatures to lose.  It did heal me however.  Lastly, Death can't directly cope with a powerful creature without significant resources, and that cells need to be utilized immediately as they really do take time to work.  A better player than I might've seen use in Aflatoxining his own creatures in Match 3 for a bit more damage, but beyond that, I'm really not sure what I could've done differently.  I do believe that Deck 3 was the best I had to offer, besides upgrading many more cards (I'm cash strapped).  xdude got a good and deserved win.

[Scaredgirl]

Gratz to xdude and thanks coinich for the match report.

P.s. coinich used that new awesome deck image creator thing to generate those images. Would be pretty awesome if we had that integrated on the forums.

[Terroking]

Essence, don't forget I only used the shards in the last 2 games, and they didn't even matter during the 2nd one. Shriekers were the biggest asset I had, But I fear an early discord if mizzle beats puppy :/

[xdude]

Planplan deck power, GO!

Game #1

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As you can probably tell, my first deck pretty much sucked. Luckily, I got a good draw and managed to out speed him, never having to use my 2 Miracles.

Game #2

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After seeing that my first deck was no good, I went for a speed deck filled with Holy Flashes to nuke his creatures. The game was a pretty easy win, but it helped me find out that Holy Flash still heals people, even if they use :deathmark or :darknessmark. 

Game #3

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6rm 6rm 6rm 6rm 6rm 6rm 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jt 7k1 7k2 7k2 7k2 7k2
Figuring out that he would go either for a blazing offense to out speed me either for a good defense, I thought about using a "I can live more than you can" type of deck. It worked nicely, (no RoL's meant no easy alfatoxin for coinich  ) although he got lots of spiders out fast and my first dragon died within 3 turns (wow, I didn't think they could be killed so fast). However, my defensive powers were to big for his not-to-big attack power (he kinda went full defense on this 1) and my 2nd and 3rd Dragons, followed by a Miracle managed to overwhelm him.

All in all, good games coinich, if only you had more upped cards I bet you could've won this match. Good games mate!

Oh, and I'm happy to have brought the so-called "weakest" element into the last 3 

Gratz to xdude

Thanks

[yaladilae]

Planplan deck power, GO!

Game #1

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7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7jq 7jq 7js 7js 7js 7js 7js 7js 7jt 7ju 7ju 7ju 7ju 7k1 7k2 7k2
As you can probably tell, my first deck pretty much sucked. Luckily, I got a good draw and managed to out speed him, never having to use my 2 Miracles.

Game #2

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7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jp 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7js 7js 7js 7js 7js 7js
After seeing that my first deck was no good, I went for a speed deck filled with Holy Flashes to nuke his creatures. The game was a pretty easy win, but it helped me find out that Holy Flash still heals people, even if they use :deathmark or :darknessmark. 

Game #3

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6rm 6rm 6rm 6rm 6rm 6rm 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jo 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jq 7jt 7k1 7k2 7k2 7k2 7k2
Figuring out that he would go either for a blazing offense to out speed me either for a good defense, I thought about using a "I can live more than you can" type of deck. It worked nicely, (no RoL's meant no easy alfatoxin for coinich  ) although he got lots of spiders out fast and my first dragon died within 3 turns (wow, I didn't think they could be killed so fast). However, my defensive powers were to big for his not-to-big attack power (he kinda went full defense on this 1) and my 2nd and 3rd Dragons, followed by a Miracle managed to overwhelm him.

All in all, good games coinich, if only you had more upped cards I bet you could've won this match. Good games mate!

Oh, and I'm happy to have brought the so-called "weakest" element into the last 3 

Gratz to xdude

Thanks

I say thats pure luck,

Light is never good 

(kidding, grats to you !!!I am building light pvp deck too for 1.21 hehe)