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Title: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kuroaitou on November 23, 2010, 02:45:27 pm
Card Design Competition:

The MASH-UP







A mix of crazy card design challenges all in one!
(http://www.sxc.hu/pic/m/m/ml/mlutsch/262758_mixer.jpg)



Objective:
Create a card that fulfills the following requirements from several card competition suggestions in the past (a 'Mash-up' of comp. ideas), and if you win, your card gets a free ride into the Forge!

This is not a parody/humor competition - please submit entries as if you would to the actual Crucible leveling system.

*Ideas of Requirements are from girlsgeneration (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,11474.msg170696#msg170696), Essence (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,5151.msg57361#msg57361), and Dragoon1140.



*Requirements (you MUST fulfill two of the following requirements for your idea to be allowed into the votes):
IMPORTANT: Your card CANNOT be of the 'Other' element or elements that weren't listed above. You may not use any ideas previously mentioned/created in the past either.



Rules:


Awards - The Winner of this competition receives:
** = not a guarantee


The designing process will last 14 days. Good luck!

Time's up!
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: asymmetry on November 23, 2010, 03:49:08 pm
Awesome... i'll have* my blender ready :b
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: kobisjeruk on November 23, 2010, 04:03:40 pm
hopefully nobodys gonna fish for votes from the kongregate community this time around  ;)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Hyroen on November 23, 2010, 04:52:52 pm
Those sneaky vote konglomerators.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kael Hate on November 23, 2010, 05:00:48 pm
Looks like we have to commit to the first and one of the others.

But I don't see any Darkness.


Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Ekki on November 23, 2010, 05:04:59 pm
I wonder, if the card MUST be a mash-up (as I see it), we should write a mash-up of what is our card (I'm sure I wrote that part wrong, but I hope you can understand it :D)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: EmeraldTiger on November 23, 2010, 05:37:03 pm
Can I provide an image for someone to use?
i modified this
http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=download&id=1052335
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: GG on November 23, 2010, 05:47:02 pm
Huh I contributed to the rules?

Oh the KXYZ thing.

Yes. I think I mentioned that there is no card with the name starting with K,X,Y, or Z.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Dragoon1140 on November 23, 2010, 05:57:51 pm
This looks like it will be a fantastic competition.  :)

Best of luck to everybody, and enjoy the holiday season.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kuroaitou on November 23, 2010, 07:25:05 pm
Looks like we have to commit to the first and one of the others.

But I don't see any Darkness.
As unfortunate as it sounds, Darkness has a total of 16 cards (including the nymph and weapon rares), making it higher than the other element totals (14 for Aether, 15 for the rest of the elements listed above). Water and Death have a shockingly high amount (17 total!) compared to the others. :o

I wonder, if the card MUST be a mash-up (as I see it), we should write a mash-up of what is our card (I'm sure I wrote that part wrong, but I hope you can understand it :D)
Um... sure? ^^; I'm not really understanding your question, but feel free to write details of -why- your card is a 'MASH-UP' of the competition requirements if you want.

Can I provide an image for someone to use?
Yes, under the condition that they of course credit you and assuming that the card idea is THEIRS (the one card submission per person will be regulated closely). :)

Huh I contributed to the rules?

Oh the KXYZ thing.

Yes. I think I mentioned that there is no card with the name starting with K,X,Y, or Z.
Clicking on your name (or Essence's for that matter) will bring up the post/competition ideas you've presented for the MASH-UP. ^^;;;; Sorry if this was a little bit shocking to you as a whole.


Anyway, thanks again - and remember that because of the holiday season, the competition will last a -week- longer in terms of the design process, so you have plenty of time to whip up something crazy that starts with K, X, Y, & Z while fulfilling a element that's has fewer cards than its peers. ;)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Malduk on November 23, 2010, 07:31:45 pm
Water and Death have a shockingly high amount (17 total!) compared to the others. :o
Well yeah, but if you start counting actually usable cards, those that we have competition for will get higher, and those that are not on the list will get lower. Point being, who cares if fire doesnt have as many creatures, when those creatures it does have are epic.

But anyway... rules of competition are already set, so good luck to all participants.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kakerlake on November 23, 2010, 07:52:38 pm
[...]
and remember that because of the holiday season, the competition will last a -week- longer in terms of the design process, so you have plenty of time to whip up something crazy that starts with K, X, Y, & Z while fulfilling a element that's has fewer cards than its peers. ;)
Yeah well, I already made something xD
But it will be hopefully commented by some folks and accordingly improved by me.
Everyone is welcome to put in his/her twopenn'orth

Also I was wondering, one of the idea requirements are taken from this:
Design a card that is designed to fill out one of the Elements that has fewer cards than it's peers.  The card should have definite synergies with at least one card in it's Element, and at least one card in an Element that it's home Element isn't currently commonly used with.  (For example, if you design a card for Darkness, it has to plainly synergize with one other Darkness card and also one other element that Darkness is not often used with, like Air or Water.)  This thread will be helpful in finding unused synergies.
But in the first topic there is only a part of it taken.
The idea stated there also says that the card should have synergies with another element which doesn't currently have many synergies with the cards element.
So, is the idea now to simply create new cards for an element with fewer cards than the others or should we also add some synnergie with other elements?

It would be important to know if we are allowed to create a mono element card or one that works especially well with other elements.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: QuantumT on November 24, 2010, 02:06:46 am
GG, when did you go through the cards and realize that those letters weren't used?
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: kobisjeruk on November 24, 2010, 02:27:38 am
shes a wiki editor
she probably index them cards and found out about the missing letters
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Malignant on November 24, 2010, 10:20:46 am
We can change the name, mechanics, etc of our card anytime before the deadline right?
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Memorystick on November 24, 2010, 12:08:28 pm
:light and :air have the same number of permanents, why do you have one but not the other? O_o

EDIT: :darkness, :water, :entropy, and :earth have less permanents than both :light and :air, :time has the same number... (Looks like you forgot wings.) (for reference, exempting pillars and pends, :gravity, :fire, and :aether have 2, while :life, :air, and :light have 4)
For spells, it looks like you have <3 spells (giving a -1 exemption for alchemy spells), in which case :gravity, with only gravity pull and momentum, should be there too :P (reference: 1 spell for :life, 2 spells for :gravity and :air*, 3 spells for :light and :aether, and 4 spells for fire)
and creatures... I think I'll leave that alone :P (for reference, exempting dragons, nymphs, and flown weapons, :gravity has 6, :life has 5, :air, :aether, and :fire have 4, and :light has 3)

* :air was given a -1 bonus for spells because its alchemy card is a permanent
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kuroaitou on November 24, 2010, 03:58:35 pm
It would be important to know if we are allowed to create a mono element card or one that works especially well with other elements.
You can create a mono-element, synergy card, or any mix in between and thereof. (I'm not really so nitpicking on the synergy part at this point, seeing that the two requirements might be more difficult than others would think, so you can do it either way) ;)

GG, when did you go through the cards and realize that those letters weren't used?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12666.0.html

^^^ - Try that. :)

We can change the name, mechanics, etc of our card anytime before the deadline right?
Correct. But remember that if the requirements aren't satisfied by the deadline, your submission is disqualified (granted, 14 days SHOULD be enough to find something... ^^; )

:light and :air have the same number of permanents, why do you have one but not the other? O_o
Other cards would have made the requirements possibly easier to make (not to mention, I kind of feel that the "Other" school is already given enough permanents (weapons and SoG)) as it is, so I decided to not include them this round. Also, considering that cards of the elements are much more important than the ones to the 'Other' school, I thought it'd be better to follow Essence's guideline of 'filling out' the elements that have less card totals overall, despite any quality/quantity issues that could arise.

EDIT: :darkness, :water, :entropy, and :earth have less permanents than both :light and :air, :time has the same number... (Looks like you forgot wings.) (for reference, exempting pillars and pends, :gravity, :fire, and :aether have 2, while :life, :air, and :light have 4)
For spells, it looks like you have <3 spells (giving a -1 exemption for alchemy spells), in which case :gravity, with only gravity pull and momentum, should be there too :P (reference: 1 spell for :life, 2 spells for :gravity and :air*, 3 spells for :light and :aether, and 4 spells for fire)
and creatures... I think I'll leave that alone :P (for reference, exempting dragons, nymphs, and flown weapons, :gravity has 6, :life has 5, :air, :aether, and :fire have 4, and :light has 3)

* :air was given a -1 bonus for spells because its alchemy card is a permanent
Pretty much. I left Darkness, Water, Entropy, and Earth outside the competition as they all have 16 cards (Water has 17).

If you EXCLUDE weapons, pillars, AND pendulums (which all elements have -exactly- one of the according type, no matter how you slice it... alchemy spells differ because of Air's), these are how the elements would look:

 :aether (Mind Gate + Phase Shield) --- (Fractal, Lightning, Twin Universe, Quintessence)
 :air (Wings, Fog Shield, Unstable Gas) --- (Shockwave, Thunderstorm, Flying Weapon)
 :darkness (Dusk Mantle, Eclipse) --- (Steal, Drain Life, Nightmare, Liquid Shadow)
 :death (Bone Wall, Graveyard, Skull Shield) --- (Aflatoxin, Poison, Plague)
 :earth (Titanium Shield) --- (Quicksand, Protect Artifact, Heavy Armor, Basilisk Blood, Stone Skin)
 :entropy (Dissipation Shield) --- (Mutate, Chaos Seed, Pandemonium, Nova, Antimatter, Butterfly Effect)
 :fire (Fire Buckler) --- (Immolation, Rain of Fire, Rage Potion, Fire Lance, Explosion)
 :gravity (Gravity Shield) --- (Gravity Pull, Momentum, Black Hole)
 :life (Thorn Carapace, Jade Shield, Empathic Bond) --- (Adrenaline, Heal)
 :light (Hope, Solar Shield, Reflective Shield) --- (Holy Flash, Miracle, Blessing, Luciferin)
 :time (Procrastination, Golden Hourglass, Sundial) --- (Rewind, Precognition)
 :water (Permafrost Shield, Flooding) --- (Ice Lance, Freeze, Nymph's Tears, Purify)
I included alchemy spells to the mix, so my organization strategy was:
-Find elements with the lowest total of cards
-Figure out which totals were lower for them: spells for permanents
-Separate the elements accordingly
-And other element that doesn't have an equal amount of spells and permanents (Air), place into creature making

...I hope that satisfies your curiosity. ^^;;;;

Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Memorystick on November 24, 2010, 04:10:47 pm
It would be important to know if we are allowed to create a mono element card or one that works especially well with other elements.
You can create a mono-element, synergy card, or any mix in between and thereof. (I'm not really so nitpicking on the synergy part at this point, seeing that the two requirements might be more difficult than others would think, so you can do it either way) ;)

GG, when did you go through the cards and realize that those letters weren't used?
http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,12666.0.html

^^^ - Try that. :)

We can change the name, mechanics, etc of our card anytime before the deadline right?
Correct. But remember that if the requirements aren't satisfied by the deadline, your submission is disqualified (granted, 14 days SHOULD be enough to find something... ^^; )
:light and :air have the same number of permanents, why do you have one but not the other? O_o
Other cards would have made the requirements possibly easier to make (not to mention, I kind of feel that the "Other" school is already given enough permanents (weapons and SoG)) as it is, so I decided to not include them this round. Also, considering that cards of the elements are much more important than the ones to the 'Other' school, I thought it'd be better to follow Essence's guideline of 'filling out' the elements that have less card totals overall, despite any quality/quantity issues that could arise.

EDIT: :darkness, :water, :entropy, and :earth have less permanents than both :light and :air, :time has the same number... (Looks like you forgot wings.) (for reference, exempting pillars and pends, :gravity, :fire, and :aether have 2, while :life, :air, and :light have 4)
For spells, it looks like you have <3 spells (giving a -1 exemption for alchemy spells), in which case :gravity, with only gravity pull and momentum, should be there too :P (reference: 1 spell for :life, 2 spells for :gravity and :air*, 3 spells for :light and :aether, and 4 spells for fire)
and creatures... I think I'll leave that alone :P (for reference, exempting dragons, nymphs, and flown weapons, :gravity has 6, :life has 5, :air, :aether, and :fire have 4, and :light has 3)

* :air was given a -1 bonus for spells because its alchemy card is a permanent
Pretty much. I left Darkness, Water, Entropy, and Earth outside the competition as they all have 16 cards (Water has 17).

If you EXCLUDE weapons, pillars, AND pendulums (which all elements have -exactly- one of the according type, no matter how you slice it... alchemy spells differ because of Air's), these are how the elements would look:

 :aether (Mind Gate + Phase Shield) --- (Fractal, Lightning, Twin Universe, Quintessence)
 :air (Wings, Fog Shield, Unstable Gas) --- (Shockwave, Thunderstorm, Flying Weapon)
 :darkness (Dusk Mantle, Eclipse) --- (Steal, Drain Life, Nightmare, Liquid Shadow)
 :death (Bone Wall, Graveyard, Skull Shield) --- (Aflatoxin, Poison, Plague)
 :earth (Titanium Shield) --- (Quicksand, Protect Artifact, Heavy Armor, Basilisk Blood, Stone Skin)
 :entropy (Dissipation Shield) --- (Mutate, Chaos Seed, Pandemonium, Nova, Antimatter, Butterfly Effect)
 :fire (Fire Buckler) --- (Immolation, Rain of Fire, Rage Potion, Fire Lance, Explosion)
 :gravity (Gravity Shield) --- (Gravity Pull, Momentum, Black Hole)
 :life (Thorn Carapace, Jade Shield, Empathic Bond) --- (Adrenaline, Heal)
 :light (Hope, Solar Shield, Reflective Shield) --- (Holy Flash, Miracle, Blessing, Luciferin)
 :time (Procrastination, Golden Hourglass, Sundial) --- (Rewind, Precognition)
 :water (Permafrost Shield, Flooding) --- (Ice Lance, Freeze, Nymph's Tears, Purify)
I included alchemy spells to the mix, so my organization strategy was:
-Find elements with the lowest total of cards
-Figure out which totals were lower for them: spells for permanents
-Separate the elements accordingly
-And other element that doesn't have an equal amount of spells and permanents (Air), place into creature making

...I hope that satisfies your curiosity. ^^;;;;
I said "the other", meaning you have :air but not :light under permanents. I excluded pillars, pendulums, alchemy spells (and gave :air that -1 bonus to make it "fair"), dragons, nymphs, and flown weapons (this was after I thought more about it, so I remember those by then) in my counts (and I noted all that)

I would have made a cut-off point and put lowest number of total cards + below the cut-off under those... but it's a moot point :P
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: geekz_always_win on November 24, 2010, 09:44:06 pm
Can I provide an image for someone to use?
i modified this
http://www.sxc.hu/browse.phtml?f=download&id=1052335
I'll take it!
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Bloodshadow on November 25, 2010, 03:43:51 am
But I don't see any Darkness.
Aww... Darn it. But no matter, I've already thought of a good card name with an element that fits.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: twinsbuster on November 25, 2010, 04:21:01 am
how many cards do we need to submit?
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kamietsu on November 25, 2010, 04:26:57 am
how many cards do we need to submit?
None. You aren't required to submit any cards. But if you want to take part, you are allowed to submit one card(unupped+upgraded)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Ekki on November 25, 2010, 04:01:38 pm
Errr, the K, X, Y, Z name can be in only one of the cards (upped or unupped)? I read the rules, but I tend to misunderstand those things  ???
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kuroaitou on November 25, 2010, 05:03:41 pm
Errr, the K, X, Y, Z name can be in only one of the cards (upped or unupped)? I read the rules, but I tend to misunderstand those things  ???
The 'K, X, Y, or Z' name can in both or one of the cards. For example, 'Xylophone | Xylophone' (please don't use that idea XD) is just as legitimate as 'Murderer | Killer'. As long as one of the cards starts with one of the letters, your entry is valid for the competition. :)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kamietsu on December 02, 2010, 01:08:48 pm
Discussion Topic: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16254.0.html

(http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/5421/yggdrasilv.png)(http://img258.imageshack.us/img258/7117/yggdrasilelite.png)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: GG on December 02, 2010, 09:23:46 pm
Wait... is Kami's the only submission? lol.

Then I'll be the competition. Reserved for card idea.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: kobisjeruk on December 02, 2010, 11:20:02 pm
this is just the announcement thread for the competition
you can post your submission here (as i did in the past) but the actual submission thread is a different thread altogether
you can check the rules for more info
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kamietsu on December 03, 2010, 06:09:36 am
I just posted it here since not everyone will go to the Submission topic to see them all. :P
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Wardead on December 04, 2010, 03:27:30 am
Kami, does that also prevent Leaf Dragon and Dragonfly?
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kamietsu on December 04, 2010, 03:34:03 am
Kami, does that also prevent Leaf Dragon and Dragonfly?
Card discussion should be done in the actual thread :P Not here.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: SunnyGreens on December 04, 2010, 04:32:58 pm
(http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6889/kinshipv2.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16894.0.html)
(http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/7581/kinshipupv2.png) (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16894.0.html)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: xBerzerk on December 05, 2010, 07:12:21 am
Wow, two days left and only two submissions.. Guess I should get started on being the third.. :D
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kamietsu on December 05, 2010, 07:48:17 am
Wow, two days left and only two submissions.. Guess I should get started on being the third.. :D
there are a lot of submissions actually, it's just somewhat unknown really if it's a requirement to post the cards here after they've been approved by Kuroaitou.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: smuglapse on December 05, 2010, 08:13:45 am
Wow, two days left and only two submissions.. Guess I should get started on being the third.. :D
there are a lot of submissions actually, it's just somewhat unknown really if it's a requirement to post the cards here after they've been approved by Kuroaitou.
It's known actually. :D This has been the format since the Holiday Card Competition.  People can post cards here, but it is not a requirement.

Personally, I find it a bit cluttered to post submissions here.  >Hint, hint<  :P :))
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kuroaitou on December 05, 2010, 08:20:13 am
Wow, two days left and only two submissions.. Guess I should get started on being the third.. :D
Clearly you haven't read the rules. :P

"# POST your card idea in the Card Idea Competition Submissions board. Once you've done that, provide a link of your card idea in this sticky topic found here"

The above requirement basically means that people ONLY need to post their submission in this thread found here: http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,16211.0.html

I personally don't like having two threads where people have to check for the card idea submission process, but the Card Idea Competition Submissions can help alleviate that by having people post their cards for approval there by the Card Curator (a.k.a. me). :) That said, you can post submissions here, but I won't even consider them for the competition UNLESS you post in the actual approval thread found on the child board.
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: xBerzerk on December 05, 2010, 09:07:40 am
..Yeah, I just found that. So much more competition than I thought. D: I agree with you, though. All of a single competition should be kept to one thread.. (Mainly, this one.)
Title: Re: Card Design Competition: The MASH-UP
Post by: Kuroaitou on December 08, 2010, 02:48:23 am
Polls are coming up shortly.

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