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Re: Card Design Competition: Divine Artifice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66397.msg1281622#msg1281622
« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2018, 10:38:42 pm »
Hm, this got me thinking: should we consider whether it'll be balanced when it wielded by the player?

Consider Manuel's entry (when this post is being made). It's about okay when wielded by Destiny. It's just that she (a) doesn't have anti-PC; and (b) she's only running a duo, making a 52 Chroma cost card unwieldy to deploy. When wielded by the player, though, shit run amok.

Please answer this, it clears up a lot. I've been assuming no, and I think most other people have as well, but other people are.

I don't consider it a requirement-- but being balanced is never a requirement. It's just that being unbalanced tends to lose you votes (generally) unless the theme is specifically around that imbalance. I wouldn't count the consideration of player balance as a negative feature, in any case.

tl;dr you don't have to, but some people may consider it a factor in voting.

Knowing the original intentions of the competition would still be nice though. An uncollectible 1-of in an FG deck is supposedly allowed to be much more powerful

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Re: Card Design Competition: Divine Artifice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66397.msg1281625#msg1281625
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Re: Card Design Competition: Divine Artifice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66397.msg1281627#msg1281627
« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2018, 11:50:56 pm »
Knowing the original intentions of the competition would still be nice though. An uncollectible 1-of in an FG deck is supposedly allowed to be much more powerful

Fair enough. I would have liked to avoid giving a strict ruling on this, but oh well. The text of the rules says "Create a unique card for one of the False Gods! One copy of your card is added to the existing FG Deck(for 2 in total)." In normal play, when you beat a FG, you have a chance of spinning any card in the FG's deck as long as it's not an ultra-rare. Therefore, the question becomes whether your unique card is an ultra rare.

This competition was not intended to consider the matter of card rarity, and it's arguable whether rarity is even a matter for card design. Why is arctic octopus a rare, but phoenix isn't? Why is Miracle a rare, but not fractal? Etc. You know that the FG will get one copy of your card and that's it. You also know that a valid submission only requires the upgraded version, and that would not be available in the bazaar. Therefore, the only way to get the card, if obtainable, would be from defeating the FG.

Given that people have already made submissions assuming both that it's a normal card and that it's an ultra-rare, I'll put it this way. Your cards are not ultra-rare unless you say they are. All ultra-rare and non-ultra-rare cards will still be voted on together. Non-ultra-rare cards probably have a small advantage since being player balanced is never a negative trait, while being player unbalanced could be considered negative by some.
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Re: Card Design Competition: Divine Artifice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66397.msg1281630#msg1281630
« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2018, 11:57:58 pm »
the unupped copy would still be obtainable by spinning it from pvp against a player using an upgraded copy they won from a FG. That said I wont we weighting my votes off anyones unupped versions in their submissions.
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Re: Card Design Competition: Divine Artifice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66397.msg1281660#msg1281660
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Re: Card Design Competition: Divine Artifice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66397.msg1281677#msg1281677
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2018, 09:00:10 pm »
The voting has closed!

It looks like an even split, though there didn't appear to be that much discussion over the merits of each choice. We understand that changing the restriction would allow for a little more leeway in designing your cards. With that said...

The rule will remain as is.
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Re: Card Design Competition: Divine Artifice https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=66397.msg1281981#msg1281981
« Reply #22 on: October 31, 2018, 07:16:07 pm »
Time is running out! Be sure to finish up your submissions!
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