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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498470#msg498470
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2012, 12:14:49 am »
I cast my vote for including upped/shard decks here.  Doesn't matter how veteran you are, bronze is almost always fastest for getting spins, unless your deck really knocks the socks off of gold.

A little bit of relevant math:
If a deck has 70% chance of winning gold (which is pretty freaking good), the chance of winning 3 times in a row and getting special spin is:
 .8 * .8 * .8 = .343 = just over 1/3 chance.
If a deck has 90% chance of winning bronze (which is pretty mediocre, to a veteran), the chance of winning 5 times in a row and getting the spin is:
 .9 * .9 * .9 * .9 * .9 = .59 = well over 1/2 chance.

Gold has the advantage that fewer rounds are needed, however, each of those rounds tends to be a lot longer (pretty rare to see a 200hp in bronze).

Plus, if you're doing a long-term sort of grind, bronze is a lot easier on your sanity!  (Don't supernova me, bro!)

Tl;dr:  veterans have a huge incentive to farm the hell out of bronze and silver, so please do share those upped/sharded/nymph decks

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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498478#msg498478
« Reply #61 on: May 15, 2012, 12:30:46 am »
The little detail you are forgetting is that this is a thread destinated to players that look for decks to grind bronze and silver, and most of them can't grind any other arena level because they don't have the cards to do it. Any veteran player can bring a plat deck to bronze/silver and start grinding, but non-veteran players are looking for decks they can build.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498612#msg498612
« Reply #62 on: May 15, 2012, 07:22:27 am »
and most of them can't grind any other arena level because they don't have the cards to do it.
Yay, a complete assumption which is false~
Any veteran player can bring a plat deck to bronze/silver and start grinding, but non-veteran players are looking for decks they can build.
And another. Do you know the word ''meta''?
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498617#msg498617
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2012, 08:04:53 am »
My gold league killer works the best in silver currently. in plat he barely reach 50% win that's not awesome.

Also I think i'm quite a vet too and I'm very interested about what other players use to farm, and I play silevr and bronze quite often
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498655#msg498655
« Reply #64 on: May 15, 2012, 10:04:07 am »
Why hasn't this been added yet? Just because it's new doesn't make it any worse! It's so beast!

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This deck is a beast indeed, however it has too many upped rares, so most newbies (like me) or shard haters (like me again) won't prefer it.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498658#msg498658
« Reply #65 on: May 15, 2012, 10:12:18 am »
and most of them can't grind any other arena level because they don't have the cards to do it.
Yay, a complete assumption which is false~
So new players that look in the forum for bronze-silver grinders can build a 30-upped-card deck with at least 4 shards?
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498660#msg498660
« Reply #66 on: May 15, 2012, 10:16:32 am »

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It's meant for Silver. But I also win well enough in Gold an Plat, imo :)

Pretty nice deck, Gandora! Personally, I think the bronze/silver league is in order to get rare cards and to upgrade them later, so decks with only upped non-rare cards are the best for this thread. Thumbs up here!  :D
Anyway, since Ralouf's deck is better against Silver than Gold, I change my personal opinion and now I think it belongs in this thread normally.  ;)
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498662#msg498662
« Reply #67 on: May 15, 2012, 10:18:38 am »
and most of them can't grind any other arena level because they don't have the cards to do it.
Yay, a complete assumption which is false~
So new players that look in the forum for bronze-silver grinders can build a 30-upped-card deck with at least 4 shards?
You are assuming that farming bronze and silver is mainly done by newbies, which is false. Hence, your assumption quoted above is false. I said nothing about new members.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498679#msg498679
« Reply #68 on: May 15, 2012, 10:51:14 am »
In MY opinon noobs should start with FG farming and move to arena after, when they have enough upped cards.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498682#msg498682
« Reply #69 on: May 15, 2012, 10:56:42 am »
In MY opinon noobs should start with FG farming and move to arena after, when they have enough upped cards.
According to your opinion, every single noob should make the RoL/Hope deck with 6 upped Photons. However, the variety of the game will greatly suffer and the noobs may become too bored of playing the same RoL/Hope deck and they would like to play something different, like farming bronze/silver league with a deck consisted mostly of upped common cards.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498716#msg498716
« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2012, 12:52:52 pm »
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You are assuming that farming bronze and silver is mainly done by newbies, which is false. Hence, your assumption quoted above is false. I said nothing about new members.
I am assuming that almost every single gold/plat farmer is good enough to farm bronze and silver, so this thread is suposed to have bronze-silver farming decks that don't work good enough in gold-plat. If a player with tones of electrum, upgraded cards and rares wants to farm bronze/silver with the best efficiency, they should just look for a gold/plat farming deck and use it in lower arena levels.
If the idea of this thread was to achive decks that work good in bronze/silver AND gold/plat, then the posts of the 2 threads should be posted here.
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Re: Community-recommended Decks discussion https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=40285.msg498741#msg498741
« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2012, 02:09:38 pm »
Your assumption is false. Splat is a lot less efficient at silver than Loufoquebow, because : Meta is different, and splat is slower.
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