Zombify | Zombify

[Manipul8r]

Nice, soft growth on a stick plus lobotomy with a drawback.

[OldTrees]

Justification for overlap with Lobotomy is still needed. [It is closer to lobotomy than mutate by miles even with the change.]

[EmeraldTiger]

I am not sure of the answer that is being sought here.
I think this almost completely transforms a creature.
I think this would a good addition to death's arsenal of necromancy spells/skills.
I think it adds creature generation to death and gives them greater control over their field.
I would most likely only use this on my own creatures.
I think this would work very well in time\necromancy deck.

I think a good strategy with this is:
use a free/or cheap creature Example: Photon it would become a 2|2 Zombie; player wants a more powerful creature, so rewind it, but first transform a second creature. if player doesn't get what they wanted re-transform creature and try again.

Edit: Rutarete and I have been discussing this and he said answer this:
What can this do that Lobotomy can't? And how is that better?
My answer: This makes the creature an undead, adds a small buff, there's no lobotomy like spell currently in death element.
This makes the undead passive more versatile; and the more ways there are to utilize this in ETG the better.

That is all I can think of ATM.

[OldTrees]

I am not sure of the answer that is being sought here.
I think this almost completely transforms a creature.Mechanically operates as a viral lobotomy.
I think this would a good addition to death's arsenal of necromancy spells/skills.
I think it adds creature generation to death and gives them greater control over their field.It modifies a creature not generate a creature.
I would most likely only use this on my own creatures.
I think this would work very well in time\necromancy deck.

I think a good strategy with this is:
use a free/or cheap creature Example: Photon it would become a 2|2 Zombie; player wants a more powerful creature, so rewind it, but first transform a second creature. if player doesn't get what they wanted re-transform creature and try again.

Edit: Rutarete and I have been discussing this and he said answer this:
What can this do that Lobotomy can't? And how is that better?
My answer: This makes the creature an undead, adds a small buff, there's no lobotomy like spell currently in death element.
This makes the undead passive more versatile; and the more ways there are to utilize this in ETG the better.

That is all I can think of ATM.

Further explained in a PM.

I am not criticizing the theme, only the specific mechanical implementation of a viral lobotomy.

[EmeraldTiger]

How else would this type of Zombie create more zombies?
Normal spawning would not fit the theme.
I hope it is understood the thematic concept connected to this type of zombie.
As it was put "viral" also fits the theme of Death.

[OldTrees]

How else would this type of Zombie create more zombies?
Normal spawning would not fit the theme.
I hope it is understood the thematic concept connected to this type of zombie.
As it was put "viral" also fits the theme of Death.

Having a viral skill would be the way to represent Zombies.
However the viral lobotomy effect needs to be removed or justified.

A solution: Make the Zombie skill not very useful as a lobotomy effect.

[EmeraldTiger]

Please If anyone has the solution to fix this as OT suggest, I will finish this idea.
Thank You.

[SnoWeb]

For the reasons I explained above, I prefer the original (spell) version. What if it was: "Target a non-undead creature. The creature's skill is now  : Zombify. Kills the creature if not activated."

[AngeDeMort]

What if the zombie skill was:
  Bite: infect target for 2. Upon death creature turns into a zombie

Similar to aflatoxin but instead of malignant cells it turns creatures into zombies. Fits with zombie theme of infection and warrants the lobotomy since the creature has to die first.

[SnoWeb]

What if the zombie skill was:
  Bite: infect target for 2. Upon death creature turns into a zombie

Similar to aflatoxin but instead of malignant cells it turns creatures into zombies. Fits with zombie theme of infection and warrants the lobotomy since the creature has to die first.

This is a pretty good idea, even if it goes through a new creature. However, I wonder if the 2 poison is really necessary....

[Smurrf]

Maybe just 1 poison, but yeah, zombies do breed by infection, so some amount of poison damage is called for.  Maybe just call it Infection and throw up a red symbol on it, kind of like Neurotoxin stacks with Poison and turns that icon yellow.

[OldTrees]

What if the zombie skill was:
  Bite: infect target for 2. Upon death creature turns into a zombie

Similar to aflatoxin but instead of malignant cells it turns creatures into zombies. Fits with zombie theme of infection and warrants the lobotomy since the creature has to die first.

This would work if carefully balanced vs Parasite.