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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132485#msg1132485
« Reply #12 on: April 09, 2014, 09:17:58 pm »
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132577#msg1132577
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2014, 06:43:05 pm »
Nice card. Good oposite to Chimera. ;)
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132603#msg1132603
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2014, 11:30:59 pm »
um...

what happen when you cast hydra and then chimera...

even reverse time can't harm your dragon when it protected by hydra.  i don't think chimera can...

and i like it.  combination of two opposite element..   ;D
Interesting ... didn't think about that at first...
If I follow my cards own logic then I suppose since the hydra would get removed from play, it would immediately spit out all dragons inside of it... so... double dragons! (as one big chimera)

Wicked combo... is it OP? ... takes a lot of quanta to set it up... at least 3 cards, a duo, and a total of at least 22 :underworld to make a chimera that has very massive stats...

example:
1 colossal dragon, then this then chimera -> 14|50 chimera
set up cost -> 10 :gravity , 1 card
combo cost: 2 cards, 6 :entropy , 6 :gravity

5 purple dragons + this + chimera would be an OTK ... but that is at least as hard to pull off as any other OTK I think so at least its safe in that respect.

I can't see any abuses off the top of my head there, but maybe I'm missing something. Can you think of any?
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132628#msg1132628
« Reply #15 on: April 11, 2014, 03:59:53 am »
Just some general mechanic questions. What happens with mutate? Aflatoxin? Mitosis?
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132797#msg1132797
« Reply #16 on: April 12, 2014, 06:36:05 am »
Just some general mechanic questions. What happens with mutate? Aflatoxin? Mitosis?
Mitosis - new hydra would absorb any dragons in play at the time... so if none are there it I guess it would be a 0|0 and die.

Mutate - Depends on the effect. If it gets killed then obviously the dragons pop out. If it gets transformed... I think the dragons should still pop out anyway. Makes life simpler I think.

Aflatoxin... It dies, the dragons pop out, and a malignant cell is left in its place (unlike pheonix the hydra is not transforming after death it is splitting just prior to death)
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132800#msg1132800
« Reply #17 on: April 12, 2014, 06:47:58 am »
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Nice card; may need to be nerfed a bit, but I can't see it being abused too much. Interesting twist on chimera.
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132821#msg1132821
« Reply #18 on: April 12, 2014, 11:03:08 am »
um...

did hydra still count as dragon?

for me if it's dragon,  that's mean mitosis (or new hydra)  should replace old hydra. 

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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132834#msg1132834
« Reply #19 on: April 12, 2014, 03:32:45 pm »
Entropy already has Purple Dragon, I don't think Hydra itself counts.

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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1132872#msg1132872
« Reply #20 on: April 13, 2014, 01:02:08 am »
Hey, I just thought of this. If I give an ability to my dragons (e.g. Mitosis, Butterfly Effect, etc.) and I use this card, will the Hydra in question gain that ability? If Hydra is destroyed, would the resulting dragons get the abilities returned to them? Could any of these effects be possibly added in?
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Re: Hydra | Hydra https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=54238.msg1133293#msg1133293
« Reply #21 on: April 16, 2014, 09:43:28 pm »
Hey, I just thought of this. If I give an ability to my dragons (e.g. Mitosis, Butterfly Effect, etc.) and I use this card, will the Hydra in question gain that ability? If Hydra is destroyed, would the resulting dragons get the abilities returned to them? Could any of these effects be possibly added in?
Hydra would have no abilities itself (suppose 2 dragons inside had abilities, how would the ability be chosen? ... simpler to just leave it without abilities)

Ideally, the dragons would retain any abilities, stats, etc. when they pop out... how easy it would be to code that?
- For the js based openEtG it would require some extra code work over most other cards so I can safely guess it would take more work than normal. How much would that be? ... I have no idea.

The simple solution is that the ability go *poof* by by! ... So I guess the answer is, it depends on just how hard it would be to actually code in.

As a means of anti-CC (which is what I'm going for) protecting existing abilites, stats, etc seems like a better plan if it is feasible.
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