Z | Z

[PoLdeR]

Am I reading that right... "N = number of Z's at end of turn x2"?

If so...

Say I have nine Z's in play at the end of my turn. Would that make them each 18/18 creatures for a total of 162 damage next turn?

and how whould you achieve that? turn 8 at least?

[PoLdeR]

ok, so a slight nerf i would suggest is making its defence constant. like def 2/3/4 making it vulnerable to CC. And mebbe the reset ability should cost 2 to stall your fractal and stuff

[PoLdeR]

I helped in getting the numbers for this card. I dont think its that OP. Could be OP tho, you have to test it first. Anyways the chance of getting 3 Z in the first 10 cards or so is pretty managable still. 3 Z would cost 9 and would be 6/6 (or 6/4 or something with the nerf) compared to two phase spiders its pretty much better unupped, upped it compares 18 attack vs 14 attack, 3 cards vs 2 cards, 9 quanta vs 8 quanta. This last case would be showing its about the same, but getting two recluse has a higher chance. So mebbe the unupped version should be nerfed with a way lower def like mebbe 1 or 2

[Pineapple]

Version 2 Update Marker.

[lava golem]

name change please I think the card is a bit OP, the skill reset is a bit wierd, since people could just TU Z's then keep on playing. OP with fractal even with quanta drain, 3 for each. you could play like 3 on the turn after fractal.

[Pineapple]

name change please I think the card is a bit OP, the skill reset is a bit wierd, since people could just TU Z's then keep on playing. OP with fractal even with quanta drain, 3 for each. you could play like 3 on the turn after fractal.

Is this for version 1 or version 2? Also, about fractal...

Okay, so let's assume that the opponent has no form of CC and you have unlimited quanta. By 8 turns, most non-stall decks will have beaten you. Remember that many rush decks have an avg ttw of 5.
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Fractal drains all your aether quanta per use. So, assuming you get impeccable draws and are able to play 8 out of the 18 aether towers from your starting hand, plus one from mark for 9 quanta per turn:

Starting turn. 8 from playing towers.
Second turn. Draw and play one. 2 damage. (98)
Third turn. Fractal for 7 after discard. 2 damage. (96)
Fourth turn.  Play 3. 32 damage. (74)
Fifth turn. Play 3. 98 damage. (-24)

It has the same turns to win on an impossible draw as the average turns to win on destroyer rush.

Are you guys convinced NOW?

[pepokish]

I like this.  Version 2 is definitely an improvement.

What's the thought behind the name, anyway?

[Pineapple]

I like this.  Version 2 is definitely an improvement.

What's the thought behind the name, anyway?

I couldn't fit anything larger than a one-letter name... xD
I couldn't do the "cool letters" (like X, because it might have been mistaken as a variable) so I picked Z.

[pepokish]

I couldn't fit anything larger than a one-letter name... xD
I couldn't do the "cool letters" (like X, because it might have been mistaken as a variable) so I picked Z.

lmao.. well, that's a clever way to get around the character limit. 

[Pineapple]

I couldn't fit anything larger than a one-letter name... xD
I couldn't do the "cool letters" (like X, because it might have been mistaken as a variable) so I picked Z.

lmao.. well, that's a clever way to get around the character limit. 

Lol, I just hope the mechanic isn't too complicated. I've very complicated mechanics explained WITHIN the character limit. ^^;;

[Pineapple]

Bump. So everyone thinks its not OP anymore?

[Ekki]

Bump. So everyone thinks its not OP anymore?

It's OK, maybe... But I'd prefer it to be N|N, where N= number of Z's, period...
just to encourage playing them in tons, and making them more lasting, though