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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg352144#msg352144
« Reply #12 on: June 16, 2011, 06:46:52 am »
I think Sylph Queen attack should be higher. The ability is rather underwhelming, so it doesn't really justify a +1 cost...
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg352146#msg352146
« Reply #13 on: June 16, 2011, 06:49:02 am »
I think Sylph Queen attack should be higher. The ability is rather underwhelming, so it doesn't really justify a +1 cost...
-use for more attack?
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg352147#msg352147
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2011, 06:58:04 am »
I think Sylph Queen attack should be higher. The ability is rather underwhelming, so it doesn't really justify a +1 cost...
-use for more attack?
If you prefer, lower cost.
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg352167#msg352167
« Reply #15 on: June 16, 2011, 09:10:00 am »
I originally had it at a 3 cost, and changed it upward because of the quanta-doubling effect.  But if you think it's worthy at 3, I won't argue. :)


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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg352174#msg352174
« Reply #16 on: June 16, 2011, 10:02:02 am »
I originally had it at a 3 cost, and changed it upward because of the quanta-doubling effect.  But if you think it's worthy at 3, I won't argue. :)
Well, rustler doubles quanta in a faster and more reliable way, and does so multiple times per turn. This is essentially a Damselfly, only with a greater cost, less reliability, slightly better stats (which are under par when combined with cost) and it also requires :life quanta to be activated. Rather underwhelming... The unupped version is rather UP too, in my opinion.

I think a better balance would be:

2 :life for 2|3
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1 :life for 1|2
for the unupped

and

4 :life for 5|4
-or-
3 :life for 4|4
-or-
2:life for 3|3
for the upped (or something similar). The point is, this should have competitive stats for its cost, the ability is nice but should definitely come for free.

As a side note: I would very much like something like this to be implemented, as it could create very intresting decks for limited environments (such as War).
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg352317#msg352317
« Reply #17 on: June 16, 2011, 04:54:14 pm »
Well, I very much want it to be Adrenaline-friendly, so a maximum ATK of 3 on the upped version is a given.  I think that 2 for 2|3 -> 3|4 is reasonable, then.  I'll make that change shortly.
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg354367#msg354367
« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2011, 04:47:05 am »
Sylph not as an :air Air card?

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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg354374#msg354374
« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2011, 05:30:54 am »
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg355050#msg355050
« Reply #20 on: June 22, 2011, 08:22:19 pm »
I like this card. With just 1 type of pillar (life), you can produce 4 different elements. not necessarily a powerful combo, but a fun and cool looking one at the very least. Just use life pillars, and then spam these and get air. Then use the air to summon firefly queens (upped and unupped) to get fire and light quanta. Nothing special I know, I jsut like the chain of events this card would make possible. It would be the most unsuspecting and overcomplicated UG deck ever...
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg355136#msg355136
« Reply #21 on: June 23, 2011, 12:00:35 am »
simple question: why use this instead of damesfly?
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg355158#msg355158
« Reply #22 on: June 23, 2011, 01:27:10 am »
simple question: why use this instead of damesfly?
Sylph Queen + Adrenaline
Casting Cost: 7 :life + 2 cards
Damage per turn: 12
Quanta change per turn: -4 :life + 8 :air
HP: 4
9q cost for 12 damage + 4 quanta with 4hp

Damselfly + Adrenaline
Casting Cost: 3 :life + 2 cards
Damage per turn: 8
Quanta change per turn: 4 :air
HP: 1
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Re: Woodland Sylph | Sylph Queen https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=27623.msg355169#msg355169
« Reply #23 on: June 23, 2011, 01:55:33 am »
i assumed the established restriction of only 2 of the "on successful attacks" counting was in effect.

even still, is 4 :life worth 4 damage, 3hp, losing 4 :life per turn, gaining the same net quanta? (post adrenaline) - in addition the effect only working when the attack is successful, and only if there is :life to be converted
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