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« on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »







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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

Lol. That's not a bad idea with a cost like that. XD This could be used to end really long matches sooner, especially with a rainbow deck. Fake Gods might have a couple minutes shaved off of them, and would make the Miracle users a little easier to beat. Might reduce the cost to 500 though.

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

IMO, it could be horribly abused.

Lets say, that we use maybe 55 quantum towers, 1 hourglass, 1 diss shield, 1 protect artifact and the Element Joker.
That would make the game really easy and abusable  ???

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« Reply #3 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

IMO, it could be horribly abused.

Lets say, that we use maybe 55 quantum towers, 1 hourglass, 1 diss shield, 1 protect artifact and the Element Joker.
That would make the game really easy and abusable  ???
Except for the fact that a deck like that would be very hard to play unless you got a super good hand first turn. A deck based around that card would probably have to be built in a very defensive manner.

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« Reply #4 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:02 pm »

Yeah, Gamerr I'll play you with that deck against mine.  I'll win 9 times out of ten.

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« Reply #5 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

if you didnt draw hourglass or dis sheild right off then you're screwed, because you would get all towers 9/10, and as archduke said, you'd get destroyed by any deck
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« Reply #6 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

I'm actually thinking that since I would pulverize or steal whatever he didn't protect, I'd probably win a lot more often.  Still, Gamerr has a point.  A more reasonable construction would have several hourglasses, several protect artifacts, sundials to build a pile of quantums and dissipation shields to take over after that.  I suspect mono-fire or poison or a number of non-rainbow decks could easily produce enough creature or spell damage fast enough to kill the opponent before enough quantums were accumulated, especially as you began to rely on the dissipation shields.

Better to make your mark time and include rewinds and eternities to keep your opponent's armies stymied and keep going as many turns as possible...

32 QTs
6 Sundials
4 Hourglasses
4 Protect Artifact
4 Dissipation Shield
3 Eternity
6 Rewind
1 Elemental Joker

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« Reply #7 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

650 quantums is only about 55 each. I generally get that much if not more extras in a long battle with my variant of Scaredgirls FG deck, so it's not impossible.

What would suck is the AI using that card with the exponential quantum tower bug...

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« Reply #8 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

650 quantums is only about 55 each. I generally get that much if not more extras in a long battle with my variant of Scaredgirls FG deck, so it's not impossible.

What would suck is the AI using that card with the exponential quantum tower bug...
That occurred to me too, would definitely be a ball-breaker.  Rainbow would NOT be allowed to have that card.

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« Reply #9 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

I think that if an instant win card like this were implimented, I doubt the AI decks would ever be given the card to use. EH brought up a good point, though. 55 of each element isn't that hard to get.

32 QTs
6 Sundials
4 Hourglasses
4 Protect Artifact
4 Dissipation Shield
3 Eternity
6 Rewind
1 Elemental Joker
Perhaps take out some things and add some Supernovas? Sure, they don't produce nearly as much over time, but because each one produces 22 quantum (subtracting the 2 Entropy cost from the original 24), that would still speed up the deck.

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« Reply #10 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

Perhaps take out some things and add some Supernovas? Sure, they don't produce nearly as much over time, but because each one produces 22 quantum (subtracting the 2 Entropy cost from the original 24), that would still speed up the deck.
This is all starting to convince me of the futility of this card.  It only works for Quantam tower decks and now you point out that on one turn I could conceivably drop six novas for 132 more quanta and push myself over the top.  Cost ought to go up to a thousand, but I still think it is too geared toward the rainbow and not really a balanced addition to the game.

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« Reply #11 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:03 pm »

I don't think this is a good idea.At all, it only overpowers rainbow decks more and gets rid or reasonable deck planning. It may cost a lot, but really, is there any need to add to at all, even with the high cost.

 

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