Wildfire | Wildfire

[Hyroen]

NAME: Wildfire ELEMENT: Fire COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Generates 1 when played. Each turn, owner is dealt 2 damage. May spread. Sensitive to and effects.	NAME: Wildfire ELEMENT: Fire COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ATK|HP: TEXT: Generates 1 when played. Each turn, owner is dealt 2 damage. May spread. Sensitive to and effects.

ART: drakemata SOURCE IDEA: Hyroen NOTES: When played, it belongs to the person who played the card. After it is played, it generates 1 and damages its owner. Next turn, it has a 60% chance of duplicating itself much like Malignant Cell, on either side of the field, but only one copy. After it duplicates, it generates 1 for its owner, and damages its owner. 1 is only generated when the card is generated for a player, each Wildfire does not produce per turn. The "Sensitive to and effects." clause refers to Wildfire's ability to have a 100% chance of duplication if it is targeted by Deflagration or if its owner is targeted by a Fire Bolt. Conversely, 1 copy of Wildfire is removed each time its owner is targeted by an Ice Bolt or by a Purify. Flooding the field removes all Wildfire from both players. Thank You to OdinVanguard for suggesting the wording, which was sufficiently challenging to adequately say what Wildfire's effects were in the space given. +rep SERIES:

[Drake_XIV]

Seems like a damage forme of Alate Hive...

[Dhanzig]

What does "Grows if fire is added." mean?  or do?

[Hyroen]

Wildfire compared to Alate Hive is a little more volatile and does not destroy any Permanents whatsoever. It's meant to represent a spreading fire as best as possible, and embodies a "Burn" DoT (in some ways) without any counters.

Who has space for more permanents when your junk is on fire? Ain't nobody got time for that!
@Dhanzig: It should be in the notes, but basically you should figure that if you try to Fire Bolt someone with Wildfire or use Explosion on a Wildfire, naturally the fire should spread, Purifying a player through a Water spell or cooling them off with some Ice Bolts might do the trick to control the Wildfire and if a field is flooded, well...

[Dhanzig]

@Dhanzig: It should be in the notes, but basically you should figure that if you try to Fire Bolt someone with Wildfire or use Explosion on a Wildfire, naturally the fire should spread, Purifying a player through a Water spell or cooling them off with some Ice Bolts might do the trick to control the Wildfire and if a field is flooded, well...

I'm hovering under 30 games away from 10,000 played and I don't know what that means ... Pretend I'm new to Elements!  Does the damage increase? Does it generate more  ... does the picture get bigger?!  I read the notes to find out before asking and saw nothing

EDIT: I See it now

[Sackett]

I think it would help if the mechanics were made simpler.

This card comes into play on you opponent's side
Spread: At the end of each turn generate a copy of this card
Wild: Generated copies of this card have a 50% chance of appearing on the opposite side
Immaterial
Generates 1  a turn

[OdinVanguard]

I'm hovering under 30 games away from 10,000 played and I don't know what that means ... Pretend I'm new to Elements!  Does the damage increase? Does it generate more  ... does the picture get bigger?!  I read the notes to find out before asking and saw nothing

Welcome to the club I guess? ... Lol ... I'm not sure when I hit that mark myself... sometime over the summer I think.

Its interesting to have this as a permanent... I was thinking of making a similar card as a creature, but couldn't think of the proper wording / mechanics for it. This is certainly a fun twist on that idea.

[Hyroen]

I think that despite the wording which may not fully describe what the card will do, it explains enough. My main concern is that the damage may be a little too high. Any thoughts?

[OdinVanguard]

Hmm... maybe something like:
"Generates 1 when played.
Each turn, owner is dealt 2 damage. May spread. Sensitive to and effects."

Still doesn't explain everything but at least clues in users that and effects will also influence this card's behavior...
There's just so much going on its hard to fit everything...

[Hyroen]

Thanks Odin, I'll be crediting you for the wording. Oh, and +rep. I really appreciate it when people help. c:

[OldTrees]

I count 4 separate effects.
1) Harms controller per turn
2) May spread
3) Generates  when entering the field
4) Sensitive to  and  effects

Now effect 3 is normally merely overcomplication. However there are cases where it is not. Effect 2 gives effect 3 a way to trigger that does not involve paying the casting cost. Thus effect 2 is required to justify effect 3. Effect 2 does not require effect 3 on the other hand.

Effect 4 interacts with effect 2 thus it requires effect 2. Effect 2 does not require effect 4 on the other hand. Effect 4 seems to be a situational effect.

I suggest removing effect 4 and possibly removing effect 3.

[Hyroen]

Spoiler for OldTrees' advice:

I count 4 separate effects.
1) Harms controller per turn
2) May spread
3) Generates  when entering the field
4) Sensitive to  and  effects

Now effect 3 is normally merely overcomplication. However there are cases where it is not. Effect 2 gives effect 3 a way to trigger that does not involve paying the casting cost. Thus effect 2 is required to justify effect 3. Effect 2 does not require effect 3 on the other hand.

Effect 4 interacts with effect 2 thus it requires effect 2. Effect 2 does not require effect 4 on the other hand. Effect 4 seems to be a situational effect.

I suggest removing effect 4 and possibly removing effect 3.

Now, normally I would follow the former Idea Guru's suggestions, but I really wanted to design the card in this way for 2 main reasons:

• If it would not generate upon appearing, it would only be a damaging detriment to the original player, which seems a little unfair. Fire players should be able to get a little more out of a Fire card.
• The fact that a Fire spell, Deflagration | Explosion would normally be able to remove permanents makes sense, but not in the case of a rampant fire. Adding explosives to an already blazing fire should not do much to control it.

I like making cards as simple as possible, however I also often design cards so that the timing and targeting of them make the difference between an EtG player, and a good EtG player.