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Should this card be a spell

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White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163274#msg1163274
« on: October 31, 2014, 03:03:05 am »
NAME:
White Flag
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:light :light : Shuffle all weapons to their owner's deck. Each one grants its owner maximum health equal to 4x its ATK.
NAME:
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ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Permanent
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
:light :light : Destroy all weapons. Each one grants its owner  maximum health equal to 5x its ATK.

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A thematically aimed repeatable anti-weapon PC and max HP booster.

Flown weapons will be affected in addition to equipped weapons.


Not sure how to handle endowed crusaders (technically not weapons)… Doing nothing is simplest answer, but could possibly remove them as if they were weapons or maybe just revert them to their unendowed states and only count the difference in ATK that causes.

Endowed crusaders are unaffected.

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« Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 06:02:04 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163276#msg1163276
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2014, 03:08:03 am »
The unupped is a permanent, whilst the upped is a spell with an ability.

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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163278#msg1163278
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2014, 03:13:31 am »
ACK! good catch.
Fixed.
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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163291#msg1163291
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2014, 05:10:39 am »
How does this work with fahrenheit?
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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163324#msg1163324
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2014, 08:38:57 am »
How does this work with fahrenheit?
It gives the owner a whole lot of maximum Health...

This actually isn't really that big of an issue because farenheit gains +1 ATK for every 5 :fire ... since the upped version of this gives +5 max HP for every ATK it basically becomes 1 max HP for every :fire quantum. That is equivalent to stone skin, which is balanced. So everything should be good.
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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163328#msg1163328
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2014, 08:49:57 am »

Not sure how to handle endowed crusaders (technically not weapons)… Doing nothing is simplest answer, but could possibly remove them as if they were weapons or maybe just revert them to their unendowed states and only count the difference in ATK that causes.


I don't think that they need to revert back to their unendowed states, i mean (if i am not mistaken) when the weapon that a crusader endows get PC'ed the crusaders retain the stats.

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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163357#msg1163357
« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2014, 01:46:54 pm »
This could be a spell and still remain quite strong.
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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163365#msg1163365
« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2014, 03:10:21 pm »
Fahrenheit shouldn't give extra healing, it's an ability the weapon has, not it's own attack.
What happens to Morning Glory ?
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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163396#msg1163396
« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2014, 05:22:50 pm »
Endowed Crusaders are creatures, not weapons. Thematically, they are equipped soldiers and this removes your weapons, not the weapons of your units.

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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163418#msg1163418
« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2014, 06:01:32 pm »
Hmm... so I'll just go with ignoring crusaders then. Its the simplest route anyway.

Added a poll for changing this to a spell.
« Last Edit: October 31, 2014, 06:04:12 pm by OdinVanguard »
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Re: White Flag | Armistice Banner https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=56380.msg1163510#msg1163510
« Reply #10 on: November 01, 2014, 01:38:15 am »
Fahrenheit shouldn't give extra healing, it's an ability the weapon has, not it's own attack.
What happens to Morning Glory ?
fiery is quite a weird ability.
It does not update the attack-stat (so not very easy to paradox),
but on the other hand, it does limit the turns of adrenaline.

The :chroma weapons are the only other creatures that can show less attack than they deal damage.
however, adrenaline ignores this bonus damage.

The inconsistency makes it unclear what should happen, looking only at what is already in the game.
For balancing purposes, it should just stick with 4 | 5 damage.
be quick- time is quanta.

 

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