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What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070675#msg1070675
« on: May 16, 2013, 03:56:04 am »
NAME:
What
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
3 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 1
TEXT:
When What comes in to play, Mutation is cast randomly per Amethyst Pillar you posses.

NAME:
What-no
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
4 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
0 | 1
TEXT:
When What-no comes in to play, Improved Mutation is cast randomly per Amethyst Pillar and Tower you posses.


ART:
EmeraldTiger
IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:
Name of this creature is serious, but humorous.
When referring to this card to post a question or statement use [], in this manner. [What] is a funny card. This will reduce any confusion.
I changed the attack to 0, because of the chance it getting hit by mutation.
SERIES:
Pillar Counting


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NAME:
What
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
6 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 1
TEXT:
When What comes in to play,
Mutation is cast randomly per Amethyst Pillar you posses.
NAME:
What-no
ELEMENT:
Entropy
COST:
8 :entropy
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
2 | 1
TEXT:
When What comes in to play,
Improved Mutation is cast randomly per Amethyst Pillar or Tower you posses.

ART:

IDEA:
EmeraldTiger
NOTES:
Name of this creature is serious, but humorous. I was thinking a higher cost is needed for the upped due the nature affect.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: May 16, 2013, 04:57:36 pm by EmeraldTiger »
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070681#msg1070681
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2013, 04:06:26 am »
The name itself screams humor section.

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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070682#msg1070682
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2013, 04:07:13 am »
The name itself screams humor section.
That's the reason I love it so much :)
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070684#msg1070684
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2013, 04:07:39 am »
Does "cast randomly" include on opponent's creatures?

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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070685#msg1070685
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2013, 04:09:02 am »
Does "cast randomly" include on opponent's creatures?
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070686#msg1070686
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2013, 04:11:17 am »
The name itself screams humor section.
Yes it does... had to bite my lip not to burst out laughing... but name aside, mechanic and theme wise it does make for a good card

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Elf is probably a bit better comparison since it is essentially unlimited use...
Balancing is tricky, furballdn gives a good spot to start, but the fact that this thing can potentially mass spam a very large number of mutation / imporved mutations at random, its tough to get a good formula started.

As a gut reaction, I think its stats are a little low... but then again, I have no idea what to value its skill at.

I do love the idea though. Hillarious name too (I think you should capitalize the "no" on the upped :) )
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070691#msg1070691
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2013, 04:22:34 am »
When referring to this card to post a question or statement use [], in this manner. [What] is a funny card. This will reduce any confusion.
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070730#msg1070730
« Reply #7 on: May 16, 2013, 07:27:57 am »
(1) I love Entropy and its flavour.

(2) Despite (1), I don't think the game needs more randomized effects to be added. Random, while fun, is toxic to the skill.

(3) Still, if this cards has to be, I think it should cost the same price than Pandemonium, or even a little less for the Upped version. It is rare to see an Upped mutation failing; most of the time, it is a buff. So it means that this card, while controlled by its caster, has high chances to buff your opponent's army.

(4) Based on (2), may I suggest to remove a random component? Maybe just propose a mass mutation that *can* affect all creatures on the field and remove the "tower and pendulums = number of targets" part.
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070756#msg1070756
« Reply #8 on: May 16, 2013, 12:24:41 pm »
The main focus here is the pillar counting.
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070773#msg1070773
« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2013, 02:40:09 pm »
(3) Still, if this cards has to be, I think it should cost the same price than Pandemonium, or even a little less for the Upped version. It is rare to see an Upped mutation failing; most of the time, it is a buff. So it means that this card, while controlled by its caster, has high chances to buff your opponent's army.
I think this last part is highly dependent on the number of creatures in play and the type of deck your opponent is playing.

-Any creature larger than about 5|5 only has a moderate chance of being buffed, even with improved mutation.

-Unless your opponent is playing a bow or packing nova, immo, or SoR, the new skill conferred is very likely to require quanta they won't have access too.

-On the other hand, most players would put this into an army style deck so that they will have a lot of creatures on their side and will likely pack nova, quantum pillars, etc.

Thus, while there is a good deal of risk involved, the player using this card should be the one to receive the greatest benefit.

It will also make a great counter against Immaterial creatures since they will not be affected so the risk would be removed.
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070788#msg1070788
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2013, 04:19:31 pm »
Updated.
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Re: What | What-no https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=49249.msg1070860#msg1070860
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2013, 08:32:24 pm »
Im expecting What-no malignant cells  ;D ;D ;D
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