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We could use some new pillars... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=601.msg7699#msg7699
« Reply #24 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Great idea! I want it ^^ But then not just vulcano, it should be for every (or at least almost every) element combination, i think. I hope they'll put this ingame  ;)
Yeah, the volcano was just a single example and the first thing that came to mind.

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« Reply #25 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Yeah, the volcano was just a single example
Yep, i thought :)

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We could use some new pillars... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=601.msg7701#msg7701
« Reply #26 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

I LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE that splashing towers idea!!!!!

And even Jmizzle's dual towers, a simple idea that probably most of us had! (at least anyone that played magic) making them give 1 random quanta chosen between 2 kinds.

But the converting ability seems too powerful: every turn you decide your quanta production...too strong! Maybe it can be used if they get a 2 random quanta cost as permanents.

In all cases i'll put a 6 card limit not to unbalance duo/trio decks agaisnt mono: it will happen for most elements but leave us mono fire and dark! At least just to let noob play in pvp

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« Reply #27 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

@Turin
Its not like the quanta choosing is any different from having 2 pillars, actually its a lot different and not as powerful as that since it only generates one of two choices for quanta. And with a quanta cost to switch, I don't see why you can't just treat these like normal pillars/towers.

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« Reply #28 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

@Turin
Its not like the quanta choosing is any different from having 2 pillars, actually its a lot different and not as powerful as that since it only generates one of two choices for quanta. And with a quanta cost to switch, I don't see why you can't just treat these like normal pillars/towers.
They are much better than normal Pillars. Although both produce the same amount of quantum, the fact that you can choose from 2 different elements is a huge advantage. When playing a dual deck you can produce the quantum you need more at that specific moment so it lowers the chance of bad luck.

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« Reply #29 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Thats an idea. Once per turn you can change the Quantum that is produced by it s effect. So when you play the for example Fire/Earth--Pillar in the first round it generates one fire quantum. But in the second round you used the effect and now it is gereating earth quantums.

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« Reply #30 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

Meh, I probly just don't see the OP-ness of them because I only ever either run Rainbow or Gravity.

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« Reply #31 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:06 pm »

There are some less obvious drawbacks (and possibly benefits) as well. With the ability, there's no way of making them stackable.
Because of this, and the limited permanent space (16 non shield/weapon), you can't have all that many of them in play at once.
It would also make protect artifact cover only one at a time.
On the other hand, they can hardly be considered pillars as such, so they'd be safe from earthquake (or you'd only lose one per quake).

I'm thinking a casting of 1 for the normal versions, 0 for the upgrades. One less quanta than a regular pillar, kind of.

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We could use some new pillars... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=601.msg8029#msg8029
« Reply #32 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

I just assumed that there would be 2 piles, and however many of them you have set to A are in a pile, and however many are set to B are in a different pile. Transfer of which color they make is similar animation-wise to Animate Weapon.

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We could use some new pillars... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=601.msg8030#msg8030
« Reply #33 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:07 pm »

There are some less obvious drawbacks (and possibly benefits) as well. With the ability, there's no way of making them stackable.
Because of this, and the limited permanent space (16 non shield/weapon), you can't have all that many of them in play at once.
It would also make protect artifact cover only one at a time.
On the other hand, they can hardly be considered pillars as such, so they'd be safe from earthquake (or you'd only lose one per quake).

I'm thinking a casting of 1 for the normal versions, 0 for the upgrades. One less quanta than a regular pillar, kind of.
THis works. If permanents they are 1). stackable and 2). 6 maximum for each different one.
Balanced but powerful card: obviously ability is once per turn.

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« Reply #34 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »

Honestly I say stop with the complexity.  Think about it.  Quantum towers generate 3 random quanta AT ONCE. 

I say we simply have a few 2-element generating towers, but limit 6 of each kind per deck.  For instance, I remember in Invasion block in M:tG, the GoMar/NoMar deck literally played 12 painlands (adarkar wastes/caves of koilos/underground river) and 8 tap lands (salt marsh/blue-white CitP tapland) and I believe a couple of cities of brass or some other mana-fixing land.

This would also allow for some solid tri-color decks (EG Earth/Gravity/Time)

Think about it.  This would be a balance between the raw amount of quanta that quantum towers generate and the one (but as many as you want in your deck) quanta of regular towers.

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We could use some new pillars... https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=601.msg9511#msg9511
« Reply #35 on: December 15, 2009, 10:10:15 pm »

How about when you upgrade a pillar you get a choice between a tower or a dual pillar.

 

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