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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273183#msg273183
« Reply #12 on: February 18, 2011, 10:26:24 am »
With this card could  i destroy opponent's Morning Glory?
Not only you could destroy it but you could also antimatter it and he couldn't do anything about it next turn!

I love this Idea. I just wonder if it's not abusable in a way ... Good job Skyreal.

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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273224#msg273224
« Reply #13 on: February 18, 2011, 01:27:45 pm »
(will comment tomorrow, g2g)
Sorry for the double post but...

I always disliked cards that break some of the "unwritten rules" (immortals are supposed to be immortal), but this anti-immortal mechanic sounds just perfect.
The only 2 problems I see to it are: maybe it's too cheap, for what it does, and I'm 90% sure I've seen this idea before (maybe it was this same post).
The cost would let you twin universe phase dragons, which was the reason why phase dragons are immortal in the first place, and also buff them if you go duo/trio/rainbow.

Apart form that, you can make this a spell if you like, it'll be like the same, and this fits more as a spell...

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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273291#msg273291
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2011, 04:33:42 pm »
Im assuming this kind of works like sundial. So its in play fro 2 of your turns and one of your opponents. I was thinking a minor nerf is if you could make last the same amount of turns for both players. its kind of indirectly benifit the caster more then the opponent as is(unless i misunderstood the wording)

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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273324#msg273324
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2011, 06:10:25 pm »
Im assuming this kind of works like sundial. So its in play fro 2 of your turns and one of your opponents. I was thinking a minor nerf is if you could make last the same amount of turns for both players. its kind of indirectly benifit the caster more then the opponent as is(unless i misunderstood the wording)
I don't get what you're saying. I know that "lasts 1 turn" means that you play it, you get your creatures swapped, do whatever you want (buff/kill them), then it's your opponent's turn, he/she does whatever he/she wants, and then when he/she ends his/her turn, the effect is over... I believe it's fair enough.

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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273340#msg273340
« Reply #16 on: February 18, 2011, 06:50:43 pm »
Im assuming this kind of works like sundial. So its in play fro 2 of your turns and one of your opponents. I was thinking a minor nerf is if you could make last the same amount of turns for both players. its kind of indirectly benifit the caster more then the opponent as is(unless i misunderstood the wording)
I don't get what you're saying. I know that "lasts 1 turn" means that you play it, you get your creatures swapped, do whatever you want (buff/kill them), then it's your opponent's turn, he/she does whatever he/she wants, and then when he/she ends his/her turn, the effect is over... I believe it's fair enough.
Well if its a permanent like sundial, its stay in play until the end of your turn. this isnt a problem for sundial because attacks happen at the end of the turn so it only stops each player from attacking once. But warp door would let you target immortals the turn you cast it and on your next turn. While only one turn for your opponent, giving you twice as much quanta to work with. Also, making your opponent think about playing another immortal card on his turn.

If the card read "destroy at the end of your opponents turn" it would stop this.

Sorry if im being overly technical. I just wasnt sure of the intention of the card and the way it read I thought it would work 2 turns for you and 1 for your opponent.

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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273575#msg273575
« Reply #17 on: February 19, 2011, 12:26:04 am »
Well, sundial is destroyed after the attacks happen, since it says that lasts 1 turn. I guess this is the same. Also, I prefer it being a spell.

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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273613#msg273613
« Reply #18 on: February 19, 2011, 01:53:38 am »
Sorry, but I'm totally against any card that removes Immortality. I'm already a bit fed up with the fact that 'Immortal' creatures are affected by :fire and :life shields / "immaterial" weapons are killable with ice bolt + shockwave. This card just goes entirely against the definition of Immortality.

Also, what does Warp Gate got anything to do with removing immortality? Gameplay > Theme, but this seems way too random.
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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273616#msg273616
« Reply #19 on: February 19, 2011, 01:57:50 am »
Sorry, but I'm totally against any card that removes Immortality. I'm already a bit fed up with the fact that 'Immortal' creatures are affected by :fire and :life shields / "immaterial" weapons are killable with ice bolt + shockwave. This card just goes entirely against the definition of Immortality.

Also, what does Warp Gate got anything to do with removing immortality? Gameplay > Theme, but this seems way too random.
I'm also totally against removing immaterial anyhow, but this idea looks workable. It "swaps" the status of the creatures, and only lasts 1 turn. Dunno, maybe I just liked it because I like its creativity.
Also, warp gate, I guess, refers to immaterial creatures as "phasers" in other dimmension, thus this swaps the dimmension, to that dimmension where the immortal creatures live, but there, mortal creatures are immortal, get it? :D

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Re: Warp Door | Warp Gate https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=20759.msg273641#msg273641
« Reply #20 on: February 19, 2011, 02:43:02 am »
Yeah alot of the "immortal" cards say immaterial on them its just called immortality on quintessence, aether nymph and anubis. Seems in elements immortality is the process of giving immaterialness.   

I always thought of aethers immaterial creatures as being halve in another dimension.

 

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