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Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg65140#msg65140
« on: May 07, 2010, 11:36:28 pm »
NAME:
Wand of Tartarus
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent - Weapon
ATK|HP:
Animated Stats: 2/5
ABILITY:
Weapon: Deals 2 damage each turn.  4: Create a Plague card in your hand.
NAME:
Wand of Tartarus
ELEMENT:
Death
COST:
4 :death
TYPE:
Permanent - Weapon
ATK|HP:
ABILITY:
Weapon: Deals 2 damage each turn.  4: Create an Improved Plague card in your hand.
ART:
Essence
IDEA:
Essence
NOTES:
Card-generating ability fails if your hand is full.
SERIES:
Wand series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,4812.msg53374#msg53374)
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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg65142#msg65142
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2010, 11:38:44 pm »
seems a bit op...... 1 plague per turn?

Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg65143#msg65143
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2010, 11:44:34 pm »
3x This
3x Bone Wall
4x Aflatoxin
4x Vulture
2x Skull Buckler (maybe not necessary)
14x Bone Tower
Mark of Death

I suppose the cards are a bit high cost, but a deck along these lines is really really dangerous and seems to have all bases covered.  Especially since poison stacks, this is just scary.  Can take out huge creatures in minimal amounts of time. 

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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg65954#msg65954
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2010, 05:23:08 pm »
1 Plague per turn...OP?  It's like a Thorn Carapace that costs 4 + 2 :death per turn (upgraded!) to use.   Can that really be considered OP?
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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66190#msg66190
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2010, 02:39:11 am »
This card: massive creature control + cheap cost + mono + its poison damage + weapon = OP
Thorn: good creature control + high cost + mono + might not effect + poison damage + shield = fine

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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66375#msg66375
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2010, 05:22:08 pm »
How can you call it "cheap cost"?    Thorn Shield = 7 :life -- one time.   Wand of Tartarus = 4 :death up front, plus 4 plus 2 :death EVERY TURN.  That's 3 more quanta for a single use, plus 6 more every turn you want to use it in the future.  And that's upgraded, versus an unupgraded Thorn Carapace. 

It practically demands the 2 damage per turn from the Weapon aspect just to make it valuable enough to use.
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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66464#msg66464
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2010, 06:59:58 pm »
I like it. I would use it as a reason to make a more death based Rainbow for FGs. But, that's maybe only because there aren't any other spammable effects like that other than Air Nymph—which I don't have.  :)

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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66487#msg66487
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2010, 07:49:35 pm »
How can you call it "cheap cost"?    Thorn Shield = 7 :life -- one time.   Wand of Tartarus = 4 :death up front, plus 4 plus 2 :death EVERY TURN.  That's 3 more quanta for a single use, plus 6 more every turn you want to use it in the future.  And that's upgraded, versus an unupgraded Thorn Carapace. 

It practically demands the 2 damage per turn from the Weapon aspect just to make it valuable enough to use.
thron shield tho it MIGHT NOT EFFECT but this is 100% chance to add 1 poison to each creature thus it is OP......

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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66490#msg66490
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2010, 08:01:44 pm »
Needs more cowbell bigger image.

Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66513#msg66513
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2010, 08:40:17 pm »
Seeing your point about the Thorn Shield, I realize I overreacted and it's not that bad.  This would allow you to run mono death with all those cards that benefit from creatures dying though, making it quite a bit better than the shield.  Who wants to pay all that  :life while using predominantly  :death cards? 

You're right though, it is pretty balanced.  Potential to be very good, but by no means a game breaker. 

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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66520#msg66520
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2010, 08:48:36 pm »
its alot weaker than thorn carapace but it can be used in a mono.

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Re: Wand of Tartarus | Wand of Tartarus https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6290.msg66532#msg66532
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2010, 09:03:39 pm »
Is that 4 death quantum or 4 of any quantum?

 

anything
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