Walking the Void | Walking the Void

[Kael Hate]

Walking the Void

NAME: Walking the Void ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 5 TYPE: Permanent (Artifact) ATK|HP: ABILITY: If your hand or deck has 0 cards you do not lose and are healed for the difference with that of your opponent. Upkeep 5 unless Aligned with Darkness.	NAME: Walking the Void ELEMENT: Darkness COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent (Artifact) ATK|HP: ABILITY: If your hand or deck has 0 cards you do not lose and are healed for the difference with that of your opponent. Upkeep 3 unless Aligned with Darkness.

ART: http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j59/absentreality/Void.jpg IDEA: Kael Hate NOTES: - Aligned with Darkness means you have the Mark of Darkness as your Primary Mark. SERIES: (Trial of Darkness) Mastery of Darkness (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,10762.0.html)

[Legit]

So...if you have 0 cards in your deck you will never lose? Or just for one turn?

[Kael Hate]

So...if you have 0 cards in your deck you will never lose? Or just for one turn?

The loss condition for having no cards will not occur for you while you have this card in play.
You can still lose due to losing all your HP.

[SeddyRocky]

An alternative to Eternity! Wohooo!

But what do you mean by that you "are healed
for the difference with that of
your opponent." Difference between cards? Like 1 card = 1 hp healed? (this would be awesome against False gods in a little mono-dark deck)

Edit: Oh, and does the healing stack? If so, it could replace SoG in some cases.

[Kael Hate]

An alternative to Eternity! Wohooo!

But what do you mean by that you "are healed
for the difference with that of
your opponent." Difference between cards? Like 1 card = 1 hp healed? (this would be awesome against False gods in a little mono-dark deck)

Edit: Oh, and does the healing stack? If so, it could replace SoG in some cases.

If you have 0 cards in Hand and the opponent has 7, you gain 7hp.
If you have 0 cards in Deck and the opponent has 30, you gain 30hp.
It might replace SoG, but you have to run your hand and deck empty to gain the best out of it.

[wavedash]

Destroyed (and then loss) if no Darkness Quanta to fuel it?

[mogv]

I find it overpowered, the fact that it is the exact same thing as eternity, except it doesnt take up a weapon slot leaving room for a stronger weapon and you dont have to reverse a creature on the field. The fact that it heals you makes it even more overpowered. The fact that its cheaper than eternity makes it even MORE overpowered. The fact that there is no upkeep for a darnkess mark is ... *faints*

[Xinef]

So if I understand correctly, the moment you would draw a card, if you have 0 cards left in deck, it heals you for the amount of cards left in opponents deck.

If you end your turn with exactly 0 cards in hand it heals you for the number of cards in opponents hand.

Is that right? Or does it work even if it's not exactly 0 cards? (the ability text would suggest otherwise, but then writing about the difference with 0 sounds strange).


What happens when you have this in play, 0 cards left in deck, and you use an Hourglass? If it heals you once again it would be seriously OP.




@mogv Don't you know any other uses of Eternity except preventing a deck out?

[mogv]

So if I understand correctly, the moment you would draw a card, if you have 0 cards left in deck, it heals you for the amount of cards left in opponents deck.

If you end your turn with exactly 0 cards in hand it heals you for the number of cards in opponents hand.

Is that right? Or does it work even if it's not exactly 0 cards? (the ability text would suggest otherwise, but then writing about the difference with 0 sounds strange).


What happens when you have this in play, 0 cards left in deck, and you use an Hourglass? If it heals you once again it would be seriously OP.




@mogv Don't you know any other uses of Eternity except preventing a deck out?

Are you telling me you would still use an eternity in your rainbows instead of this card?

[Xinef]

I use 2 or 3 Eternities in my rainbows. If you ever won against Dark Matter by simply rewinding her nymphs each turn you'd know why. All False Gods except Divine Glory are vulnerable to Eternity lock, and it's one of my main lines of defense, along SoGs and a shield.

In fact Eternity is one of the best CC cards in Elements.

[Kael Hate]

So if I understand correctly, the moment you would draw a card, if you have 0 cards left in deck, it heals you for the amount of cards left in opponents deck.

If you end your turn with exactly 0 cards in hand it heals you for the number of cards in opponents hand.

Is that right? Or does it work even if it's not exactly 0 cards? (the ability text would suggest otherwise, but then writing about the difference with 0 sounds strange).

What happens when you have this in play, 0 cards left in deck, and you use an Hourglass? If it heals you once again it would be seriously OP.

The healing is only once per turn during its action step.
It only works if you have 0 cards in hand or 0 cards in deck. If you have 1 card in hand you get no healing from the hand comparison. If your opponent has 0 cards in hand, you get nothing. If you have 0 cards left and you Hasten with Hourglass, nothing will happen. (The game will try to lose for you and then decide not to)

Most of the time it will do nothing or very little until the endgame when it kicks in fairly strongly, but that can still fail during a matchup where both players are running at the same speed because the opponents deck will be near 0 and your healing will be negligable.

[PuppyChow]

I like it, especially its synergy with nightmare.

I don't see why you need the upkeep part though, and the whole alligned with darkness seems pretty... odd (and a bit complex, since the average new player will have no clue what that means). I mean, duo decks would have the hardest time paying for the upkeep, so you want to make it nearly impossible to play in duos while very easy to play in monos? Why not make it just a normal card?