Waive | Abdicate

[iDaire]

NAME: Waive ELEMENT: Death COST: 4 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Kill an enemy creature. Take damage equal to the higher of its two stats.	NAME: Abdicate ELEMENT: Death COST: 2 TYPE: Spell ATK|HP: TEXT: Kill enemy creature. Take damage equal to the higher of its two stats.

ART: http://www.spells-witchcraft.org/Casting-Spells.html IDEA: Me NOTES: This is a CC. Unlike other CC, It instantly kills a creature. However, you take damage equal to its health or attack, whichever one is higher. So don't do anything stupid like targeting an armagio. That is just suicide. This is much like a reverse catapult. After Update I: Spoiler for Hidden: SERIES:

[dawn to dusk]

Maybe OP with SoSac? I'm not sure about this card...

[skyironsword]

I say that for all intents and purposes shards do not exist in the game! So far, SoPa, SoSac, and similar cards just wreck the great ideas that CIA has. Someone should sticky a thread saying 'Do not balance your cards against the shards'

[theelkspeaks]

Is there any "true damage" that hits through SoSac?  If so, this could be classified as that.

[skyironsword]

Is there any "true damage" that hits through SoSac?  If so, this could be classified as that.

Sosac itself hits through sosac

[CuCN]

I say that for all intents and purposes shards do not exist in the game! So far, SoPa, SoSac, and similar cards just wreck the great ideas that CIA has. Someone should sticky a thread saying 'Do not balance your cards against the shards'

The great CIA wrecker...

[skyironsword]

Except snowflake!

Fractal snowflake does nothing! HA!

[iDaire]

Remember, Shard of Sacrifice only inverts damage for about two turns I believe.
Plus you need to have this in your hand for that combo to work.
And I believe the only benefit you would gain from that combo is if the opposing enemy is gravity or fire. Massive Dragon can be very valuable.
This can instantly kill ANY creature that can cause a problem, with the exception of normal CC restrictions (You know, immortals and things like that)
However the thing that makes this perfectly powered is the drawback.

[OdinVanguard]

And I believe the only benefit you would gain from that combo is if the opposing enemy is gravity or fire.

This works very nicely if used on your own armagios or voodoo dolls. It allows the player to mitigate the danger of using SoSac.

E.g.
I have an upped voodoo doll. I play SoSac, then this to gain back half of the HPs that SoSac just cost me.

I'm not certain if this qualifies as abuse per say, it is adding to the combo size and there are no creatures that have high enough stats to compensate for even an upped SoSac in 1 shot.

I don't think this will be broken with SoSac. It just makes SoSac a little more feasible to pull off so maybe we can see it show up more often without needing a dedicated SoSac-stall... that could be a bit refreshing actually.

[skyironsword]

...there are no creatures that have high enough stats to compensate for even an upped SoSac in 1 shot.

[Espithel]

The strongest single-shot CC as of now is either fire bolt or lightning, and this card is outright inferior to both.
Fire bolt can grow very powerful very quickly and target players, and has synergy with farenheit and steam machine.
Lightning costs next to nothing and kills nearly everything.
Waive... costs double both of them, and deals damage to you, just so you can kill everything?
Why on earth would you use Waive?

If you're playing a deck that's not fire or water or air or aether or arguably darkness, you could consider it... but then again, most decks that need CC tend to stick to those elements and not death, and probably still will stick to those elements and not death.

Personally, I'd say make it even stronger. 2/1 .

We could say "reduce your maximum HP equal to the higher of its two stats" if you want to remove the combo with sosac. Although if reducing maximum HP doesn't make you take damage... then you can just ignore my suggestion about reducing the cost...

[OdinVanguard]

...there are no creatures that have high enough stats to compensate for even an upped SoSac in 1 shot.

I.e. requiring only 1 additional card. Titan does have 50 HPs but requires an extra card since you have to apply flying weapon. This adds 2 extra cards to the combo and possibly requires a trio (unupgraded).