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Flayne

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233159#msg233159
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2010, 02:16:30 am »
I don't see a lot of use in this card though.
It dies easily to shields and any CC when vulnerable, and it deals 5-6 damage over the course of 2 turns. Doesn't fit in rush and doesn't fit the theme of stall either.

Also, if Cosmic worm is hit with poison, or freeze, or procrastination, does that turn when it's invulnerable to attacks still cause it to be damaged/wear down the counter?

And to be honest, it's just a worse immortal.
as i said before, this card has a very high chance of striking the opponent twice without being neutralized by a spell such as lightning or fire bolt, thats its primary use, and what makes this card special is that, before it attacks you can bless it, give it momentum, etc.
before starting its phasing cycle, which then makes the card even more lethal due to its phasing.

as for the shield effects, thats the reason why i put 3 hp on the unupped and 2 hp on the upped,
lets say cosmic worm (upped) attacks but gets poisoned by carapace shield, it disappears, however the poison will still effect it even if its gone, so when it comes back it would have 1 hp left, and as soon as it attacks this turn, it dies from the next poison damage.
and if it freezes, it normally comes back frozen but unable to attack, so it stays there if doesnt attack as it is frozen.

i think i may have to change the unupped hp to 2hp as well now that you´ve made me think.

BTW an immortal is immortal, it cannot be targeted, cosmic worm can be targeted, so it isnt an immortal but rather a hard target (in concept and in some cases in the game) so i don´t understand what you mean by "worse immortal".
By worse immortal, I'm saying why you would choose this card over immortal.
i sort of get what your saying but this card has a totally different ability and purpose and it has more attack than the immortal, so i still fail to see a valid point in your comment

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233165#msg233165
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2010, 02:20:41 am »
For every 2 turns, it deals a whopping 5 damage.

Immortal: Every 2 turns, it deals 8 damage.

Get the picture?
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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233179#msg233179
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2010, 02:31:04 am »
For every 2 turns, it deals a whopping 5 damage.

Immortal: Every 2 turns, it deals 8 damage.

Get the picture?
of course but your failing to see that cosmic worm would have more survivablity than the immortal against certain shields, for example, fire shield, the immortal would die in 3 turns = 12, but the cosmic worm would die in 6 = 15, and in the end do more damage but to nerf this, the cosmic worm is targetable by spells everytime it comes back so in another sense it has either more or equal survivability to immortal.

but you guys have made me think a little more on the matter and now i have reached a decision and im going to increase attack, so then it will pose a little more difference to the immortal.

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233184#msg233184
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2010, 02:35:20 am »
update: i have increased attack of unupped and given an xtra 2 atk to upped version in order to take advantage of its phasing ability and to establish a difference between the "immortal"

any suggestions are appreciated :)

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233269#msg233269
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2010, 04:39:46 am »
nepy means make a spell ti guve a creature the phase passive ability

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233275#msg233275
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2010, 04:44:30 am »
nepy means make a spell ti guve a creature the phase passive ability
i see, but this creature? or opponents creatures?

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233280#msg233280
« Reply #18 on: December 26, 2010, 04:47:37 am »
either one really

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233281#msg233281
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2010, 04:49:29 am »
Making something "Fifth-Dimensional" functions as both a buff and a nerf at the same time. In fact, a large number of my archetypes function by both helping and hurting the creature the spell is cast on. (sorry to make this an advertisement)
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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233287#msg233287
« Reply #20 on: December 26, 2010, 04:54:45 am »
Making something "Fifth-Dimensional" functions as both a buff and a nerf at the same time. In fact, a large number of my archetypes function by both helping and hurting the creature the spell is cast on. (sorry to make this an advertisement)
i see, so what do you suggest?

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233295#msg233295
« Reply #21 on: December 26, 2010, 05:09:42 am »
Give it the ability to "Embrace" the target creature, and take it with it to whatever dimension it decides to pop off to.
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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233297#msg233297
« Reply #22 on: December 26, 2010, 05:14:50 am »
Give it the ability to "Embrace" the target creature, and take it with it to whatever dimension it decides to pop off to.
nice concept but i don´t think so, it would change the entire purpose of this card, plus its a tad bit situational and it sounds slow, one would think: why not a turtle shield instead?

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Re: Void worm/Cosmic worm https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=18308.msg233300#msg233300
« Reply #23 on: December 26, 2010, 05:19:15 am »
Because it's an Aether card that screws up even more cards, so clearly it must be implemented.
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