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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg303993#msg303993
« Reply #12 on: April 02, 2011, 06:18:46 pm »
Maybe you should increase its health? A Fire/Thorn shield and it's dead in a turn.

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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg303998#msg303998
« Reply #13 on: April 02, 2011, 06:22:21 pm »
the art is awesome!! especially according to void's mysterious polygonal forms.
also the mechanic is very intriguing though what would happen if it were to reduce someone's health to zero on its own? or is the limit 1 hp?
Id say this is a great counter to miracle decks if you spam these babies on the field.
though it think it should WAY higher health than just 1. I mean its a dragon for petes sake, despite Ruby dragons 2 hp thing. though it has very high attack. This just takes away from max health. too easy to kill with just fire shields, poison carapaces, poison-plague, devour, thunder, etc.

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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304016#msg304016
« Reply #14 on: April 02, 2011, 06:39:09 pm »
the art is awesome!! especially according to void's mysterious polygonal forms.
also the mechanic is very intriguing though what would happen if it were to reduce someone's health to zero on its own? or is the limit 1 hp?
Id say this is a great counter to miracle decks if you spam these babies on the field.
though it think it should WAY higher health than just 1. I mean its a dragon for petes sake, despite Ruby dragons 2 hp thing. though it has very high attack. This just takes away from max health. too easy to kill with just fire shields, poison carapaces, poison-plague, devour, thunder, etc.
Maybe you should increase its health? A Fire/Thorn shield and it's dead in a turn.

with 0 atk it is unaffected by shields.

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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304101#msg304101
« Reply #15 on: April 02, 2011, 07:52:52 pm »
the art is awesome!! especially according to void's mysterious polygonal forms.
also the mechanic is very intriguing though what would happen if it were to reduce someone's health to zero on its own? or is the limit 1 hp?
Id say this is a great counter to miracle decks if you spam these babies on the field.
though it think it should WAY higher health than just 1. I mean its a dragon for petes sake, despite Ruby dragons 2 hp thing. though it has very high attack. This just takes away from max health. too easy to kill with just fire shields, poison carapaces, poison-plague, devour, thunder, etc.
Maybe you should increase its health? A Fire/Thorn shield and it's dead in a turn.

with 0 atk it is unaffected by shields.
I know, but
what happens when you have no choice but to add attack to it?
blessings and stuff? its just to consider the situational values.
even without the shields, its still xtremely easy to kill.

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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304116#msg304116
« Reply #16 on: April 02, 2011, 08:06:17 pm »
the art is awesome!! especially according to void's mysterious polygonal forms.
also the mechanic is very intriguing though what would happen if it were to reduce someone's health to zero on its own? or is the limit 1 hp?
Id say this is a great counter to miracle decks if you spam these babies on the field.
though it think it should WAY higher health than just 1. I mean its a dragon for petes sake, despite Ruby dragons 2 hp thing. though it has very high attack. This just takes away from max health. too easy to kill with just fire shields, poison carapaces, poison-plague, devour, thunder, etc.
Maybe you should increase its health? A Fire/Thorn shield and it's dead in a turn.

with 0 atk it is unaffected by shields.
I know, but
what happens when you have no choice but to add attack to it?
blessings and stuff? its just to consider the situational values.
even without the shields, its still xtremely easy to kill.
It is immaterial and has 0 attack.
This means it is only vulnerable to:
CC cards that do not target [Flooding which ignores other cards]
Attack buff cards that do not target [Nightfall does not apply to other cards] combined with a CC shield.

In short it is invulnerable (for now) so the hp does not matter (yet).
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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304136#msg304136
« Reply #17 on: April 02, 2011, 08:14:08 pm »
OH, i didnt see that part!  :))

my bad, but does that mean that its basically indestructible? thats a little op then imo, since you could just spam these on the field and easily get away with it.
I say giving 1 attack should do the trick, so then it can get affected by shields.

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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304216#msg304216
« Reply #18 on: April 02, 2011, 09:20:50 pm »

reducing the opponent  by 7 and yours by 4 is only a diffence of 3, this is underpowered compared to the others, unless it is used as a last minute push to kill. Maybe reduce it to reducing yours by 3 or something.
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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304219#msg304219
« Reply #19 on: April 02, 2011, 09:24:59 pm »
reducing the opponent  by 7 and yours by 4 is only a diffence of 3, this is underpowered compared to the others, unless it is used as a last minute push to kill. Maybe reduce it to reducing yours by 3 or something.
Reductions in max hp have a smaller effect if damage has occured.
You are probably being damaged. Your opponent is not.
Thus Viod Dragon is probably doing a net of 7 damage to your opponent and no measurable damage to you.
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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304227#msg304227
« Reply #20 on: April 02, 2011, 09:40:53 pm »
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also the mechanic is very intriguing though what would happen if it were to reduce someone's health to zero on its own? or is the limit 1 hp?
Your opponent loses. Yep, Void breaks the game by allowing your opponent to LOSE with EM.
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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304307#msg304307
« Reply #21 on: April 02, 2011, 11:24:32 pm »
Yep, Void breaks the game by allowing your opponent to LOSE with EM.
Not really. Deckout already achieves this, if they have full HP at the end of your last turn.

Looks rather painful towards slow decks that rely on healing. A rush makes this card pretty useless though. A fair cost for what it can do I think.

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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304360#msg304360
« Reply #22 on: April 03, 2011, 12:47:56 am »
reducing the opponent  by 7 and yours by 4 is only a diffence of 3, this is underpowered compared to the others, unless it is used as a last minute push to kill. Maybe reduce it to reducing yours by 3 or something.
Reductions in max hp have a smaller effect if damage has occured.
You are probably being damaged. Your opponent is not.
Thus Viod Dragon is probably doing a net of 7 damage to your opponent and no measurable damage to you.
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Re: Void Dragon | Elite Void Dragon https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=23533.msg304407#msg304407
« Reply #23 on: April 03, 2011, 02:14:43 am »
Maybe you should increase its health? A Fire/Thorn shield and it's dead in a turn.
with 0 atk it is unaffected by shields.
D'oh! Totally didn't realize that.

 

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