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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg63521#msg63521
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2010, 08:22:27 pm »
Though it may be altering the card far to much, I would personally change the card such that it is of either the  :air or  :darkness element and have its effect be:

Invisibility
Conceal all friendly creatures, all friendly creatures then randomly swap places with each other. When a new creature is played, Invisibility is activated again, but its countdown is unaffected.
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*Conceal would be a passive ability. When a card is concealed, it is targetable but cannot be seen by the enemy. After being targeted, it is revealed and affected by whatever is targeting the card unless it is revealed and is untargetable.

It should allow targetable creatures to be targeted, but their identities left unknown, making a Reverse Time, a Thunderbolt, or a Congeal possibly ill-chosen. This would mean serious reworking of AIs.

Perhaps however damage order may give away position. Is damage inflicted in order of play timeline or by field position? If it is by field position, then this idea is kind of flimsy, more so when played against the pros.
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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg66362#msg66362
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2010, 04:43:19 pm »
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- I am concerned about the effects this card would have on the PVP environment. Already there is a considerable issue with players believing their opponent is cheating when playing Fractal and the issues that occur with Desync. I can only see effects like this exacerbating the problem and causing persons to become disheartened with the game.

- Is there a requirement that the Creature markers be hidden? Could not the same effect be given by simply stating that all creatures you control may not be chosen as a target while veil is in play? In this way the confusion is not caused and you can still expect your creatures to be killed by Rain of Fire or Plague.

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg69678#msg69678
« Reply #14 on: May 16, 2010, 05:38:18 pm »
Kael,

I hear and agree with your concerns.

I think keeping a placemarker for the card would be fine. Either as a blank card or as a card that has a 50% opacity shadow type thing over it.

I will change that in the description. Also it seems like people want this card to be a darkness card (to keep with elements culture...) I will update the card to reflect that.

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg70048#msg70048
« Reply #15 on: May 17, 2010, 01:36:07 pm »
Oh, so now we're ready to have a full blown Invisibility debate... :p

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg70125#msg70125
« Reply #16 on: May 17, 2010, 05:12:16 pm »
nah i think if you take out the invincible think its 100% not op isnce you would need to  wait 3 turns to usr a Rof and dont forget that darknes creatures in normal are pretty weak devourer down iwth a Rof minor vampire down with a Rof only dragons survives there

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg1135531#msg1135531
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2014, 06:54:18 pm »
It seems like this old card been lost in the sea of ideas. Thank you ji412jo for noticing!

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg1135543#msg1135543
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2014, 09:29:29 pm »
It seems like this old card been lost in the sea of ideas. Thank you ji412jo for noticing!

Welcome into the game cloak I hope you will be well used and beloved by many players.!

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg1135550#msg1135550
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2014, 10:16:09 pm »
wait what?

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg1135553#msg1135553
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2014, 10:45:01 pm »
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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg1135749#msg1135749
« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2014, 10:51:32 am »
It seems like this old card been lost in the sea of ideas. Thank you ji412jo for noticing!

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg1168475#msg1168475
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2014, 12:43:00 am »
It seems like this old card been lost in the sea of ideas. Thank you ji412jo for noticing!

Welcome into the game cloak I hope you will be well used and beloved by many players.!

This Cloak idea was known at the time of Cloak's release in game, but it wasn't already here for a reason - the Reliquary was supposed to be reserved for cards that provided inspiration to Zanz, and he stated this idea did not.

[00:08:20] Kuroaitou: @zanz: Was cloak inspired by any card found on the forum Zanz? ^^; Just curious.
[00:08:41] zanzarino: [inserted @ Malduk ] No issue i just need to create the art and the code
[00:09:04] zanzarino: Kuro: no, I had cloak in my list of card to create for a long long time

Source - Kuro asked because he was Curator at the time and moving to the Reliquary would have been his responsibility.

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Re: Veil | Cloak https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=6037.msg1168563#msg1168563
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2014, 06:25:23 pm »
It seems like this old card been lost in the sea of ideas. Thank you ji412jo for noticing!

Welcome into the game cloak I hope you will be well used and beloved by many players.!

This Cloak idea was known at the time of Cloak's release in game, but it wasn't already here for a reason - the Reliquary was supposed to be reserved for cards that provided inspiration to Zanz, and he stated this idea did not.

[00:08:20] Kuroaitou: @zanz: Was cloak inspired by any card found on the forum Zanz? ^^; Just curious.
[00:08:41] zanzarino: [inserted @ Malduk ] No issue i just need to create the art and the code
[00:09:04] zanzarino: Kuro: no, I had cloak in my list of card to create for a long long time

Source - Kuro asked because he was Curator at the time and moving to the Reliquary would have been his responsibility.

If you leave it here, at least update this thread with it.
Okay. Seems accurate. I move it back. Thank you for info!
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