Veil | Cloak

[wizelsnarf]

NAME: Veil ELEMENT: COST: 4 TYPE: Permanent ABILITY: Invisibility: Creatures cannot be targeted by opponent for 3 turns ART BY: Wizelsnarf IDEA BY: Wizelsnarf	NAME: Cloak ELEMENT: COST: 3 TYPE: Permanent ABILITY: Invisibility: Creatures cannot be targeted by opponent for 3 turns ART BY: Wizelsnarf IDEA BY: Wizelsnarf

NOTES: [/color][/b] This is a countdown card which last for 3 turns. Invisible creatures cannot be targeted but can be hurt by spells without a target; e.g. firestorm. EDIT: Per various requests, the cards are no longer invisible but would simply be untargetable by the opponent (RoF and other mass attacks would still effect your creatures). Also, the card has been changed to  and the image adjusted accordingly

[Kameda]

How is this different from a 3-turn Quintessence?

[wizelsnarf]

How is this different from a 3-turn Quintessence?

Similar but different because:

1. It would protect all your creatures
2. You would be able to play creatures that your opponent would not know about for up to 3 turns.

[Kameda]

Ah, all of your creatures. Now it's good. Maybe a little too much.

[wizelsnarf]

Well, it isn't protected so you could destroy it or steal it which makes it pretty fair. Also, firestorm, plague and other non targeting spells would still affect your creatures, so it isn't quite the same as being invulnerable.

I thought those two facts make it rather balanced, but maybe I am wrong.

[Boingo]

How bizarre it'd be to EM somebody and not even know what creatures he had?

[Kael Hate]

Well, it isn't protected so you could destroy it or steal it which makes it pretty fair. Also, firestorm, plague and other non targeting spells would still affect your creatures, so it isn't quite the same as being invulnerable.

I thought those two facts make it rather balanced, but maybe I am wrong.

Are you aware that in Elements, Firestorm and Plague both target? When played it checks all creatures 1 at a time and if able to be Targeted does so. This is why they do not affect Immaterial Creatures.

[xdude]

How bizarre it'd be to EM somebody and not even know what creatures he had?

It would be even more bizarre to be killed by... nothing

[wizelsnarf]

Well, it isn't protected so you could destroy it or steal it which makes it pretty fair. Also, firestorm, plague and other non targeting spells would still affect your creatures, so it isn't quite the same as being invulnerable.

I thought those two facts make it rather balanced, but maybe I am wrong.

Are you aware that in Elements, Firestorm and Plague both target? When played it checks all creatures 1 at a time and if able to be Targeted does so. This is why they do not affect Immaterial Creatures.

Kael, I was not aware. Thanks for the info. Would it be possible to still use a firestorm though? You don't have to click any creature yourself so maybe the engine can just do it for you (by looking beyond the veil so to speak), versus say a fire lance where you actually have to choose a creature yourself (and wouldn't be able to because you can't see the cards...)

If that is programmable, I think it would make the card pretty fair...

[wizelsnarf]

How bizarre it'd be to EM somebody and not even know what creatures he had?

It would be even more bizarre to be killed by... nothing

Oh yeah and one last thing. As you just pointed out xdude, if you were taking damage greater than the displayed weapon, you would know for sure creatures were on the board, thus giving you a clue to play a firestorm or plague or whatever. (you would still be taking a risk not knowing if the creatures were immortals/quinted and wouldn't know their hp...)

[Avenger]

Why is this in the 'other' element? Hiding is darkness special.

[wizelsnarf]

Why is this in the 'other' element? Hiding is darkness special.

I originally made it other because I wasn't sure where it would fit in terms of balance and because I thought it would be nice if everyone could play it. I kind of envisioned it as a piece of clothing that is worn and therefore not any element in particular.

I am open to making it darkness.... Would the costs be the same? Just concerned it would make darkness too good.