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Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150317#msg1150317
« on: August 10, 2014, 11:20:05 am »
NAME:
Vast Flourishing
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Creatures played become Cockatrices, spells played become Heals, permanents played become life pendulums.
NAME:
Improved Flourishing
ELEMENT:
Life
COST:
6 :life
TYPE:
Spell
ATK|HP:

TEXT:
Creatures played become Cockatrices, spells played become Heals, permanents played become life pendulums.

ART:
A Small Child
IDEA:
Frozengaia
NOTES:
New version uses cocks instead of non-cocks.

Affects both players, lasts until the start of the user's last turn. Also TEXT LIMITATIONS WHY >:U:<
Upped merely casts upped versions of everything.
You get a nice icon, similar to silence and sanctuary, when this spell is in effect on both players.

The cost of a card still applies-
If you play a dragon whilst this is out, you get a cockatrice and lose 2 life quanta.
If you play fractal whilst this is out, you pay 10 aether quanta and heal. You don't lose aether quanta, because fractal's consume all aether quanta is part of the cost.
SERIES:

« Last Edit: August 16, 2014, 11:05:33 pm by Frozengaia »

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150332#msg1150332
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2014, 12:51:21 pm »
Do the cards played still cost the same as they would? Your notes indicate that playing Fractal will not drain :aether, so I take it that they would not. But I think that this card should not effect the costs of the cards, but rather what they turn out to be. After all, the only way to play a card is to pay for it, and this card says nothing about reducing the cost to play cards. The way that I think it should work is that if I play a Voodoo Doll for 2 :darkness, I still pay the 2 :darkness, but my doll turns into a Life Dragon on enter.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150333#msg1150333
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2014, 12:55:44 pm »
The second combo doesn't work. Sky Blitz heals you for 20 HP.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150336#msg1150336
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2014, 01:15:44 pm »
Just add cloak, Theelk.
Fine, TTK. >:U
Problem solved.

The card does not affect the costs of playing cards, only what cards play.
The reason fractal doesn't drain all your aether quanta is because that's not a cost of the card but an ability on the card.
The ability still costs the same. That is exactly how it works, Joseph.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150621#msg1150621
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2014, 06:34:43 pm »
Pretty cool card. I think Emerald Dragons may be a bit much though, as if you set up your deck right you can always ensure you can spam more Emerald Dragons than your enemy.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150623#msg1150623
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2014, 06:36:35 pm »
Fractal + Photon + Vast Flourishing = DRAGONS, DRAGONS EVERYWHERE

That aside, I do think that for such a widespread crippling effects like this, the price should be higher.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150626#msg1150626
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2014, 06:41:01 pm »
Fractal + Photon + Vast Flourishing = DRAGONS, DRAGONS EVERYWHERE

That aside, I do think that for such a widespread crippling effects like this, the price should be higher.

Why Fractal?  Just do 4 Photon, 4 Spark, 4 Gemfinder, 4 Damselfy, 6 Flourish, 4/4 Upped life pend/pill, Life Mark... right?
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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150627#msg1150627
« Reply #7 on: August 11, 2014, 06:42:30 pm »
Well, I was thinking unupped, but sure.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150652#msg1150652
« Reply #8 on: August 11, 2014, 08:35:20 pm »
It probably does need to be a bit higher.
The problem I have in that is that it needs to be high enough to prevent all the quasi-abuse combos, but low enough so turning creatures into dragons is viable.
... How does 8 sound?

Quasi-Edit:
8 sounds really expensive for what is basically a silence.
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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150655#msg1150655
« Reply #9 on: August 11, 2014, 09:17:49 pm »
The thing is that it isn't just a silence. It can be used hyper offensively.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1150660#msg1150660
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 09:50:38 pm »
I still want the silencey quality, though...

How about it makes crockatricies instead?
That's a buff for some cards, a nerf for others.

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Re: Vast Flourishing | Improved Flourishing https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=55376.msg1151512#msg1151512
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2014, 11:05:50 pm »
Okay, it uses cocks now.
Embrace the cocks.

 

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