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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115508#msg115508
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2010, 10:35:07 pm »
Yes you are right it would lean towards OP if that was the case. The original idea was that it copied the spell and then you could use it with :aether this did not mean you could use the relative ability of it unless the card specifically said you could. (ie a card that said use the same quanta as you paid for this card)

So with Fire Bolt you would use 3 :aether (Taniwha) to activate it but you would still suffer the idignity of needing :fire to use the ability. This would hold true for StoneSkin and Drain Life. as well. The only exception is Miracle as this would definately be OP if you could cast it with :aether and not have to lose anything for the casting.

As another note would someone be able to clarify if Unstable Gas is a spell when you activate the :fire cost of it thus making that available or not? I would assume it is not although being able to summon an Unstable Gas would be available just not the ability activation.

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115547#msg115547
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2010, 11:14:26 pm »
no its a permanent so it wouldn't be copied by these (freakin sweet) cards lol

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115552#msg115552
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2010, 11:22:50 pm »
OK so Unstable Gas is a permanant. That clears that up.

I am running on the assumption that this card does not copy any ability activations even though they could be classed as spells. Just for the record: Only Spell cards cast from your hand are included.

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115557#msg115557
« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2010, 11:27:38 pm »
what if chaos power was used, would it power up this card, your cards, your opponent's cards?

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115565#msg115565
« Reply #28 on: July 15, 2010, 11:40:50 pm »
Choas Power is a spell so although the target of the opponent will still get the bonuses you also get to use it on your next turn depending on the cost (Taniwha yes with :aether unsure if you can with Tuatara as you would need :entropy )

So in short anything that is a spell card that is played from the opponents hand can be copied but this only copies the last spell played (so play something useless after Miracle etc..)

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115697#msg115697
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2010, 01:51:57 am »
This card could help reach a new highest HP.

1. Play 6 Tuataras (or more with PUs or fractal)

2. Cast SoD or stone skin. All Tuataras gain the same ability. Use them.

3. Cast another one. DO the same.


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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115701#msg115701
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2010, 01:56:57 am »
Stoneskin yes maybe, but you have to realise that only the cost of the card is changed not the ability on the card so stonekin would be usless in an :aether mono as there would be no :earth to activate it.

SoD is a problem though but even still you have to wait until your opponent plays one and that comes down to how you play.

So recapping the card cannot change any of the abilities on the Spell Card it can only duplicate the spell. The only exception to this rule is Miracle as otherwise it becomes OP. But even then it could be not an exception.

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg115892#msg115892
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2010, 06:17:09 am »
wat about pandamoneum what would happen there

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg117726#msg117726
« Reply #32 on: July 18, 2010, 09:47:08 pm »
Once again another spell. It would be available and be used with Tuatara with :entropy and Taniwha with :aether.

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg117759#msg117759
« Reply #33 on: July 18, 2010, 11:11:19 pm »
If you cast SoR on this is the cost 0 or 3?
It's a little confusing because casting SoR on it means the ability will fire but would it before or after SoR take affect?

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg117971#msg117971
« Reply #34 on: July 19, 2010, 02:50:18 am »
As already stated:

SoR:

This effects the active ability. Wove is a passive ability so is unaffected by it. If you use SoR on this you get nothing.

If there is a spell active on Tuatara then yes you will get seomthing for using SoR. You will be able to activate that spell for free. After the spell is activated it disappears and so does the SoR effect.

Therefore:

I have a Tuatara in play.
Wove: I gain Drain Life for my Tuatara
I play SoR on my Tuatara.
I use Drain Life at 0 cost (it would have only cost me 1 :darkness anyway)
I now have passive ability Wove and NO SoR.

I hope that clears it up

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Re: Tuatara | Taniwha https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=9672.msg117995#msg117995
« Reply #35 on: July 19, 2010, 03:00:48 am »

As another note would someone be able to clarify if Unstable Gas is a spell when you activate the :fire cost of it thus making that available or not? I would assume it is not although being able to summon an Unstable Gas would be available just not the ability activation.

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Scyther
reflect shield stop it so the game counts it as a spell  tho that might change in the next version

 

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