Undead Ninja | Elite Ninja [Shuriken | Shuriken]

[AD TienzuStorm]

NAME: Undead Ninja ELEMENT: Death COST: 2 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0 | 3 TEXT: : Weaponry Add a Shuriken to your hand and gain +1|+0	NAME: Undead Samurai ELEMENT: Death COST: 2 TYPE: Creature ATK|HP: 0 | 4 TEXT: : Weaponry Add a Shuriken to your hand and gain +1|+0

ART: No art IDEA: AD TienzuStorm NOTES: Spoiler for Shuriken | Shuriken: So. Not sure why in Death, but why not. Anyways, Shuriken is a non stand alone card (think Ash and Malignant Cell). That's to prevent a card that's purchasable in game to rely on another specific card. So not much to say, might be a bit OP, but meh. CHANGES: Spoiler for older version:

[ZephyrPhantom]

Initially I felt this was odd in but given the idea of implementing a quanta sink and the similarities to Poison in 'wearing down an opponent', I think the element choice is fitting.

Upgraded name feels a bit weird. Samurai don't usually get associated with shurikens.

Overall I think it's a slightly complex but very fun execution of a growth mechanic. Curious to see what others think.

[AD TienzuStorm]

Hm, yeah, I probably should just stick with Undead Ninja for both unupped and upped.

Also, what are thoughts on making the Weaponry ability give +1|-1? That way you have a limited amount of Shurikens that one Ninja can hold.

[ZephyrPhantom]

Given the existence of Fire Spirit, I think keeping it as is is fine.

[Monox D. I-Fly]

Hm, yeah, I probably should just stick with Undead Ninja for both unupped and upped.

Undead Ninja | Zombie Shinobi
At least "Zombie Shinobi" rhymes. 

[AD TienzuStorm]

Given the existence of Fire Spirit, I think keeping it as is is fine.

No, it wasn't an attempt to nerf it, I just thought of it as a thematic thing which shows that one Ninja can only hold so many Shurikens (and who knows, maybe they cut themselves when they pull out a weapon ).

Perhaps I could change the theme to something like that works in a pack and it's like take one for the team or something.

I dunno.

[OdinVanguard]

I'm not so sure its balanced... at least compared with other inflaters.

First off, the shuriken is providing up to +7 attack. Second, this is simultaneously going to every copy of the ninja in play.

With one or two in play, this may be balanced (although probably still strong considering how fast quanta can ramp up in a good deck).
With multiple in play, this could end up quite OP.

Its the overall combination thats OP though I think. If it only affected a single warrior, it would probably be doable, or if it only provided a small bonus, then that might be more balanceable (although this has the same issues as ATK swarm potentially)

I like the +1|-1 suggestion though. Its a fixed value, and ensures that no ninja can grow indefinitely without some kind of outside HP buffing. That forces a duo which would help a lot.

[AD TienzuStorm]

I'm not so sure its balanced... at least compared with other inflaters.

First off, the shuriken is providing up to +7 attack. Second, this is simultaneously going to every copy of the ninja in play.

With one or two in play, this may be balanced (although probably still strong considering how fast quanta can ramp up in a good deck).
With multiple in play, this could end up quite OP.

Its the overall combination thats OP though I think. If it only affected a single warrior, it would probably be doable, or if it only provided a small bonus, then that might be more balanceable (although this has the same issues as ATK swarm potentially)

I like the +1|-1 suggestion though. Its a fixed value, and ensures that no ninja can grow indefinitely without some kind of outside HP buffing. That forces a duo which would help a lot.

I like the idea of making it only affect one, shall change now.