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The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1128361#msg1128361
« on: March 02, 2014, 06:08:35 pm »
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NAME:
The Specialist
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 4
TEXT:
Specialty: can not be affected by aether cards.
NAME:
The Expert
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
6 | 4
TEXT:
Specialty: can not be affected by aether cards.

ART:
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IDEA:
Vangelios
NOTES:
Simple and clear,aether cards has no effect on it
 Dimesional shield can not block it and it comes into play with this skill but ironically can be lobotomized by mind flayer.
SERIES:




The old version


NAME:
The Specialist
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
6 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 6
TEXT:
:fire : Specialty destroy target aether permanent. Specialist cannot be target by aether cards.
NAME:
The Expert
ELEMENT:
Light
COST:
4 :light
TYPE:
Creature
ATK|HP:
3 | 6
TEXT:
:fire : Specialty destroy target aether permanent. Specialist cannot be target by aether cards.

ART:
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IDEA:
Vangelios
NOTES:

SERIES:

« Last Edit: March 13, 2014, 08:50:08 pm by Vangelios »
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1128363#msg1128363
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2014, 06:25:30 pm »
Extreme elemental hate and doesn't fit in Light. You can balance Aether out in much better ways.
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1128389#msg1128389
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2014, 09:29:42 pm »
OP against aether, but almost useless if you are facing anything else. Not a good card I'm afraid.
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1128411#msg1128411
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2014, 11:30:47 pm »
I'm thinking you should probably be able to pick any permanent, and make this card immune to cards of that type.

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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1128412#msg1128412
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2014, 11:42:06 pm »
Just do not use mono, use duo :P
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1128415#msg1128415
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2014, 12:33:37 am »
Just do not use mono, use duo :P
Not sure what this post is supposed to mean. Do you mean that aether will be fine if it uses duo? First off... aether has no reason to target this. Ever. 'oh god three attack, better double lightning it'

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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1129421#msg1129421
« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2014, 06:51:41 pm »
"Elemental Hate" generally has a major drawback of being too situational. I think that is the case here.
This card's ability is pretty pointless except against opponents wielding aether... in MtG color-specific cards don't sufffer so bad because thats about 1 in 5 opponents. In EtG, it ends up being 1 in 12. Thats less than half as useful.

I like the idea of a limited destruction ability though... what do you think about making it only able to destroy permanents that match one of the players' marks?

Its not guaranteed effective (since even some monos use off element marks). But its a whole lot better

wording could go something like:
"Specialist evades cards from opponent's mark element.
:fire : Specialty - Destroy target permanent of evaded element."
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1129429#msg1129429
« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2014, 08:00:59 pm »
"Elemental Hate" generally has a major drawback of being too situational. I think that is the case here.
This card's ability is pretty pointless except against opponents wielding aether... in MtG color-specific cards don't sufffer so bad because thats about 1 in 5 opponents. In EtG, it ends up being 1 in 12. Thats less than half as useful.
In addition, the majority of Aether decks don't rely on permanents, so it's 100% a Dim Shield counter card. This hurts other elements who want to exploit Dims as a surprise meta tool more. Plus this card is very expensive for its stats, so you wouldn't pack it anyway.
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1129436#msg1129436
« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2014, 08:20:17 pm »
I had even forgotten of this card lol, I think it really is useless to not lose the idea then I'll change so:
"can not be affected by aether cards" then make a creature  6 :light status 6 | 4 and upped 4 :light same status
in this mode is useful in several decks ;)
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1129440#msg1129440
« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2014, 08:48:47 pm »
changes is done
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1129441#msg1129441
« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2014, 09:04:11 pm »
I think we need more elemental hate towards Aether. :P
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Re: The Specialist | The Expert https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=53934.msg1129444#msg1129444
« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2014, 09:20:03 pm »
I think we need more elemental hate towards Aether. :P
I actually like this card! ;D
Perhaps... this card is powerful enough to be useful without its ability, so at least it won't be overly situational.
Of course, its essentially a semi-vanilla now.

So for the moment, I'll take as a given that an specifically anti-aether card is a good idea (because that particular debate would probably spawn a small board of its own). The next question is, how do you justify the ability thematically. I.e. why is this a :light card?
In the case of holy light (one of the few specific anti-element cards currently in the game), the thematics work exceptionally well... I don't see the connection here though.
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