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The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342419#msg342419
« on: May 29, 2011, 12:55:49 am »


Silence. The gloomy forest I awakened to greeted me with that. I started to hear the birds chirping, the growls of a tiger, and a running waterfall.

"Who was I?" The question lingered in my mind as I stood up and looked around me - there was no trace how I could have arrived here and why I could've been here.

I began walking, but I didn't know where. I seemed to be going nowhere, but my instincts seemed to tell me that this would be the way out of the forest that shrouded many things from my vision.

The foliage slowly became less dense, and soon I was able to see the clear, blue sky and the deep, orange sun through the green leaves. It was a bright afternoon, but I still saw nothing more than the less hostile forest animals - most would scutter away as they saw me, while others watched, as if wondering where I was going.

Finally, I came to a clearing - the expanse of the plain outward from there seemed to go on endlessly, but a small point jutted upwards in the distance. I headed towards it to find a stone grey pyramid, with large steps that led to a somewhat circular center. I noticed the ornate design around this top step - there were twelve colored carvings on the edges of the circle, each a different symbol from it's neighbor. They were all connected by 12 large lines that traced to the center point.

I suddenly stepped on this center point and raised my hand. What was I doing? I couldn't even seem to control my body any longer - the instinct I had before was turning into a presence.... no, a power.

"Gia." I whispered, and the sky darkened and the rumbles of thunder were heard, with the crashes of lightning.  I concentrated, and suddenly, I saw three strange structures arise around the pyramid - a large, dark pillar, another pyramid that had a suspended crystal over it, and a tower of fire, focusing it's multicolored flame into a cone-like pouch.



"Yes... Gia. That is my name. And this - is the power of the ancients. Quantum."



Welcome to the Quantum Forge. This takes my old Forge System suggestion, and combines it with some of the pillar suggestions here to create this mini-series.

Basically, the Quantum Forge works like this - after you complete the quests, there would be a "Forge" option accessible on the Menu, which will take you to a screen similar to the upgrade screen.

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You can select up to three pillars/relics to forge, which would result in an entirely new card being made. Forging costs 10  :electrum + 10  :electrum for each pillar used to forge the card.

Forging Pillars will get you the unupgraded form - using towers increases the chance you get the upgraded version by 33% if you're using 3 cards or 50% if you're using 2 cards. Using all towers guarantees you the upgraded version. However, if a forging involving Towers and Pillars fails, you will only get the towers back, along with a Relic.

The first card you use to forge is always the most important one - it will determine the resulting card's main element or type. If your first card was a Quantum Pillar, it randomizes the element.

All Pillars made from the forge are Unique - you can only have up to 6 copies of them in your deck.




Forging Chart



Elemental Pillar + Elemental Pillar = Pendulum



Elemental Pillar + Elemental Pendulum = Duality Pillar




Elemental Pillar + Elemental Pillar + Relic = Core Pillar
A Core Pillar produces quantum of it's element. Upgraded, it will produce 1 quantum of your mark when played.




Relic + Elemental Pillar + Elemental Pillar  = Crowned Pillar
A Crowned Pillar produces quantum of your mark. Upgraded, it will produce 1 quantum of it's element when played. In this case, the second card you used determines the element.




Elemental Pillar + Elemental Pillar + Elemental Pillar  = Diverse Pillar
A Diverse Pillar has a 33% chance to produce the elements used to craft it. Upgraded, it will produce 1 quantum of it's main element when played. In this case, the second and third cards also determine the possible elements that can be made.



Elemental Tower + Elemental Pillar  = Elemental Tower + Relic (if forging fails)

This will only occur if an attempt to forge with pillars and towers fails the percent chance given for the upgraded form by the towers. While it does devalue relics, it also helps players to get them for Forging Core and Crown Pillars.

Unique Combinations :


Time Pendulum + Gravity Pendulum  = Libra



FAQs:

So why have you made this idea?

I made it because I felt it would be a good suggestion for the game, as well as to give Relics a new use. More quantum generators will always provide new strategies, but the 6 pillar limit stays in place to make sure normal pillars are overshadowed.

What if it is too difficult to code?
The only difficultly would probably be with Diverse Pillars, which I have proposed a possible workaround on the actual thread itself. However, Core and Crown Pillars can be treated as separate ideas if needed.

Do you think this idea would actually get in the game?

Maybe, maybe not. I made it mostly for fun and because I had some time on my hands. If Zanz is willing to develop this idea, that would be great, of course. :)

So, what about forging all sorts of other cards? Like, Animate Weapon + Dagger = Throwing Knife? That would be so cool!

My original Forge suggestion makes use of forging two "material" cards into a card already in the game, where I did add a Tier 3 system where two cards could be forged to create a new, different card. If I was to revive the idea again (if i actually did), I would've probably created a separate thread - but planning possible merges for everything seems a bit... much.

I may add some unique pillar combinations that give you special cards outside the normal pillar system, but otherwise I plan to stick to quantum generators for this.



Special Thanks

Essence for the Original Idea of Core and Crown Pillars
xdanod for the Anime Charecter Creator (Used for Gia's image)
All the people in CI&A that suggested multipillar ideas.
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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342426#msg342426
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2011, 01:03:24 am »
I still feel the mechanics of it all feel a little bland. The whole forge idea sounds fun and exciting, however the concepts of the Towers just seem a bit redundant...

I'd personally like to see some Pillars and Pendula that would bring an exciting component to the game, that may turn into creatures, that may cast spells, that may store energy.

We seem to be heading in the right direction, but in my opinion we're still thinking inside the box.

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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342432#msg342432
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2011, 01:15:48 am »
I like it and the concept, but even so what would be the point of making an obsidian core pillar? Will you actually give it a use or is the wording just the relic part?
The same question for the crowned pillar
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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342433#msg342433
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2011, 01:20:05 am »
I like it and the concept, but even so what would be the point of making an obsidian core pillar? Will you actually give it a use or is the wording just the relic part?
The same question for the crowned pillar
I am not sure since unupgraded it currently acts like a regular pillar. I'll think about whether it might need a change or not.

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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342435#msg342435
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2011, 01:20:49 am »
I like it and the concept, but even so what would be the point of making an obsidian core pillar? Will you actually give it a use or is the wording just the relic part?
The same question for the crowned pillar
I am not sure since unupgraded it currently acts like a regular pillar. I'll think about whether it might need a change or not.
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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342439#msg342439
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2011, 01:24:26 am »
I like it and the concept, but even so what would be the point of making an obsidian core pillar? Will you actually give it a use or is the wording just the relic part?
The same question for the crowned pillar
I am not sure since unupgraded it currently acts like a regular pillar. I'll think about whether it might need a change or not.
Generate 1 quanta of the target card when played? :3
How much is 1 quantum of an Emerald Dragon?
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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342499#msg342499
« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2011, 03:24:12 am »
I like it and the concept, but even so what would be the point of making an obsidian core pillar? Will you actually give it a use or is the wording just the relic part?
The same question for the crowned pillar
I am not sure since unupgraded it currently acts like a regular pillar. I'll think about whether it might need a change or not.
Generate 1 quanta of the target card when played? :3
How much is 1 quantum of an Emerald Dragon?
The idea sounds good, but wouldn't that just replace the tower's mechanic, rather than the pillar's? ^^;

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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342500#msg342500
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2011, 03:25:12 am »
How much is 1 quantum of an Emerald Dragon?
Umm.... 1 :life quantum?  Is that less obvious than it seems?
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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342511#msg342511
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2011, 03:42:55 am »
How much is 1 quantum of an Emerald Dragon?
Umm.... 1 :life quantum?  Is that less obvious than it seems?
He was making fun of the wording, I believe, because Nep didn't say the element of the target but of the target itself. 

Anyway, the forging idea is interesting, but I agree, it seems like a minor or bland twist on the system and wouldn't introduce new strategies or ways of playing.  It does solve the problem of pillars being so solely used, but it doesn't change the basic mechanic of them, which is actually what could use diversity.

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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg342517#msg342517
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2011, 03:50:04 am »
One thing for sure - I will probably be trying to improve what can be forged from the pillars - I'm aware that it's a little bland ATM, but the basic idea is out there.

I was thinking of replacing the Pendulum Forging with cards similar to ones from the Dual-Element Series (http://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php/topic,13822.0.html). What do you guys think?

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Re: The Quantum Forge https://elementscommunity.org/forum/index.php?topic=26938.msg373628#msg373628
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2011, 02:50:37 pm »
BUMP!!!! 

And why not make the Diverse Pillar instead do a cycle ifor upped?

MERGE PENDULUMS WITH PENDULUMS AND PENDULUMS WITH PENDULUMS WITH PENDULUMS

And all other ways you said.  Oh and make it so that 2 pillars combined, instead of a pendulum, make it a pillar and the quanta random for unupped and cycle upped.

I wonder mark was entropy and if an   Earth Pun(:P)dulum +  Amythyst Pillar + Darkness Pendulum = Peversed Pendulum?


In that case The Pillar or tower would Decide the elements?

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I find the turn-by-turn basis that the pendulums perform slightly problematic at times - sometimes you'll be short a quantum when you needed another one and have a bunch of extra quantum that could've been in the other pool.... if this situation had been 1 turn later. The chance basis allows you to get any (and at least 1) of the elements each turn, but at least it's slightly more unpredictable.

As for cycles, it seems that game has a hard time keeping track of things like specific order, hence the lack of a graveyard or "Set everything back to X turn" card. I don't think it would be easy for Zanz to program a cycle (given the number of things that are known to be hard to code), and as I stated the turn-by-turn basis can get annoying.

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MERGE PENDULUMS WITH PENDULUMS AND PENDULUMS WITH PENDULUMS WITH PENDULUMS

And all other ways you said.  Oh and make it so that 2 pillars combined, instead of a pendulum, make it a pillar and the quanta random for unupped and cycle upped.

I wonder mark was entropy and if an   Earth Pun(:P)dulum +  Amythyst Pillar + Darkness Pendulum = Peversed Pendulum?

In that case The Pillar or tower would Decide the elements?
Perhaps, but that's a lot of combinations. Having 12 elements makes it possible to have a lot of combinations, which will increase by a lot as more potential combinations are added to create specific cards like those. There is the subcoordinate system I proposed in the Diverse Pillar thread, but there is a chance that may not work and Zanz would have to program 144> cards into the game instead of 12.

Nevertheless, it's the CI&A section, so I'm not going to discourage anything. I'll probably work on this idea a bit when I have time to create some interesting quantum producers.

 

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